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CAMERON
Third
Quarter Earnings Release
November
3, 2009
8:30
a.m. ET
Operator: Greetings,
ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Cameron Third Quarter Earnings
Release.
At this
time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
A brief
question and answer session will follow the formal presentation.
If anyone
should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star-zero
on your telephone keypad.
As a
reminder, this conference is being recorded.
It is now
my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. Scott Amann, Vice President, Investor
Relation, for Cameron.
Thank
you, Mr. Amann. You may begin.
Mr. Scott
Amann: Good morning, and thank you for joining us
today.
This
morning you'll hear from Jack Moore, President and Chief Executive Officer of
Cameron, and Chuck Sledge, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial
Officer. Jack and Chuck will offer some commentary on the results for
the quarter and will then take time to field your questions.
In
accordance with the Safe Harbor provisions of the securities laws, we caution
you that some of the statements made on this call may be forward-looking in
nature and, as such, are subject to various factors not under the control of the
Company. For a more complete description of these factors and the
related risks and uncertainties, please refer to Cameron's Annual Report on Form
10-K, the Company's most recent Form 10-Q, and the associated news
release.
With
that, I will now turn things over to Jack.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Thank you, Scott.
Q3
earnings for Cameron were 56 cents a share, which included two cents for
restructuring costs. Revenues for the quarter were just over $1.2
billion, slightly below last quarter and 18 percent below the prior year
quarter, primarily due to short cycle businesses.
The most
significant story for Cameron in Q3 is bookings. Each of our three
operating groups reported sequential bookings growth in Q3. In fact,
eight of our 11 business units realized increased sequential order flows in the
quarter.
I am
pleased with all of our business units and their ability to focus on markets and
customers in this environment. Maintaining that focus while
addressing cost, including downsizing operations, is a real testament to the
quality of the people on our team.
Total
bookings for the quarter finished at over 1.3 billion, an increase of 440
million from Q2, which resulted in an ending backlog of over 5.1 billion, which
is an increase of 100 million sequentially. Our Drilling and
Production Systems group signed a multi-year frame agreement with
Petrobras. As part of this agreement, we booked the first 111 trees,
or about 80 percent of the total package, in the third quarter. We
expect the remainder of the order over the next 12 to 24 months.
We also
saw increased orders in our Surface Systems and Petreco, Cameron's Process
Systems business, as well. Petreco booked its largest order ever with
the award of a project for multi-phase pumping systems offshore
Mexico. This project is directed at boosting flow rates of crude
production in existing fields, and could be just the first of several more to
come in the future. I have no doubt that, when NATCO is combined with
this business, that many more opportunities like this one will be developed for
both onshore, offshore and subsea applications.
While on
the topic of NATCO, NATCO's shareholders are scheduled to approve the
transaction at a special meeting on November 18th. Once this is
confirmed, we hope to complete the transaction as soon as possible, perhaps the
same day. As I have said before, we are very excited about adding the
people, technologies and overall capabilities of NATCO, and, together with
Cameron, we'll have the combined capability to offer more advanced technology
and global reach to meet the present and future needs of our
customers.
Another
pleasant surprise was that our Surface Systems orders grew by 30 percent
sequentially in Q3. Results from a lot of focus that we have placed
with our US shale gas initiatives in both the Haynesville and Marcellus are
paying off. Plus, we've seen some decent recovery in both the
Rockies, as well as project orders in Europe and Africa.
Our
drilling orders were essentially flat with Q2 of '09. We did,
however, book one stack in the quarter for Sevan, had no cancellations, and our
aftermarket bookings continue to improve over sequential quarters.
Our Valve
& Measurement group also saw sequential bookings in Q3 versus Q2, driven by
a 60 percent increase in our Engineered Valve business. This is due
to the receipt of several large project awards in both China and Russia that we
have been tracking for most of the year.
Process
Valves also saw its best bookings quarter for the year in Q3, with a big shift
to international orders. This is where we secured a large order for
Gazprom. These guys have been very successful with expanding their
market penetration, and we will see more success in the future. We've
also realized some additional benefit in our Process Aftermarket orders from the
integration of a recent acquisition in Australia.
The
biggest change, but with the smallest number, was in our Distributed Value
business. Bookings improved by 10 percent. The main fact here is that
they improved versus Q1 and Q2. This positive turn is the result of a
lot of hard work on the part of this team to go out and expand their
markets.
Compression
orders grew sequentially by 18 million in Q3. This was led by our
Centrifugal business, where we booked a substantial project in India for 11
centrifugal gas compressors for various ONGC facilities.
I've said
this on a number of occasions that our Compression team continues to reinvent
themselves in this very limited market environment. In years past,
having total bookings of 370 million through three quarters would have been a
good year. Today, in this market, this number's exception, though I
know that the folks that are running this business are still not
satisfied.
Chuck
will walk you through the margin story in a few minutes, but I would note that
we continue to benefit from a combination of solid execution and cost focus, and
overall EBITDA margins for Cameron for the quarter came in at 18.5
percent. And like last quarter, our Drilling, Subsea, Engineered
Valves and Process Valves led the way.
But, let
me walk you through our outlook for the business before I turn it over to
Chuck. Our short cycle business is predominantly focused on North
America. We have definitely seen a bottom with several of our
business units, specifically Surface and Distributed.
Recent
activity suggests the shale gas plays will provide new growth opportunities for
those focused in this market. And as I stated earlier, Cameron's
initiatives in this area over the past year are now bearing
results.
But, with
lots of concern still surrounding a sustainable US economy recovery and its
impact on demand for gas, and thereby its price, you have to somewhat be
concerned about the fragile--how fragile the recovery will be. As for
other parts of the world, we expect to see near-term short-cycle market
opportunities in Europe and the Middle East, but expect Asia to continue to be
slow.
Several
large pipeline valve orders for the quarter were finally realized, but we have
more on the radar that have yet to be awarded. As we have said in
previous quarters, none of these projects have been canceled, just
deferred. We expect Gorgon and Kearl to come through in the near
future, and we expect to see awards for projects in Indonesia and Papua New
Guinea, as well.
We also
see the benefit of global stimulus activity supporting demand for our Process
Valve markets. Airports and gas processing and receiving terminals
have been the target of these recent awards. And as I mentioned
earlier, our Compression business is seeing the benefit of expanding gas
processing infrastructure in India, as well as China.
As for
deep water, we continue to see timing of major projects
extended. However, so much is in the queue that we seem to keep
adding more projects to the list with relatively few falling off, and none as a
result of cancellations. We believe it will take time for customers
to develop conviction about oil prices.
One of
the foundations for that conviction will be demand recovery, and we feel that is
getting closer. Will it be six, 18 months before a change in attitude
occurs? It will not be the same for everyone, but the fact is, all of
our major customers, both international oil companies and national oil
companies, have a lot of prospects that will require subsea
hardware.
Our
current thinking is that, in Q4, Petrobras should award lot two of their frame
agreement trees, and we would expect that Chevron will award their Jack St. Malo
project for the Gulf of Mexico. Brazil will continue to play a major
role across most all of Cameron's business units.
It is not
only a subsea story for Cameron. Drilling, Surface, Processing,
Valves and Compression will all have opportunities to service both Petrobras,
the international oil companies, and local contractors as this market
expands.
Our total
year guidance reflects some of the uncertainty with respect to today's price
environment. Meanwhile, reductions in supply chain costs are running
their course, and some customers understand this. However, we
continue to experience pricing pressure from competitors.
Given all
of these dynamics, I know that our 16,000-plus employees at Cameron prepared for
these challenges by focusing on their cost, their cycles, and their
customers.
Now,
we'll turn it over to Chuck Sledge to discuss the financials.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Thanks, Jack.
Cameron
continues to execute well on delivering our backlog and on our cost control
efforts in this down cycle. Operationally, we delivered 58 cents per
share versus our original expectation of 50 to 55 cents.
The good
news is it's a repeat of the story of the second quarter margins. As
Jack mentioned, we've been able to reduce our costs faster than the pricing
pressures in the market has affected us.
We
thought we would see some negative pressure on margins this quarter, and that
just didn't materialize to the extent we thought it would. We do
expect to see margin slippage, but the magnitude and timing of the deterioration
is somewhat uncertain.
As Jack
mentioned, we experienced an 18 percent decline in revenue sequentially, driven
primarily by our shorter cycle businesses, particularly our Surface and
Distributed Valve businesses. As you saw in our release, we did incur
two cents of restructuring cost and NATCO deal cost during the
quarter. You should continue to--you should expect to continue to see
us restructuring our business during the fourth quarter to ensure our cost
structure is in line with current market conditions.
Our tax
rate for the quarter continued to trend down as we make additional progress in
maximizing our international tax-saving opportunities.
Cash flow
from operations was $184 million year-to-date, which is behind last year's level
for two reasons. First, we built inventory in our project-related
businesses to support future deliveries. Secondly, we've experienced
a reduction in cash advances as a result of the delay in large project awards
the industry has experienced this year.
The good
news is that the project-related inventory build should result in higher Subsea
project-related revenues in 2010. Additionally, as the build in
inventory has moderated, we should continue to see improved cash flow generation
in the fourth quarter.
We
continue to invest in our business to ensure we maintain our position as a
low-cost producers--producer in the market we participate in. As a
result, our CapEx forecast for the year is now 240 million.
As a
reminder, we did not buy back any stock during the quarter, as we're restricted
from doing so until NATCO closes. Once we get this behind us, our
share buyback will return to the menu as a potential use of our
cash.
Turning
to backlog for a moment, we did not have many cancellations during the quarter,
in fact only 16 million. We currently have 178 million of backlog
associated with drilling projects that do not have ultimate operator
contracts. Now, this is actually down from 337 million last quarter,
so the risk associated with the--this part of the backlog continues to
decrease.
Our
guidance for the fourth quarter is 49 to 53 cents per share, which translates
into full-year guidance of 226 to 230, up from the previous guidance of 215 to
225. And obviously, these are excluding any unusual
charges.
Our
D&A is currently tracking at 145 million, and the share count embedded in
our guidance is 222 million shares.
Scott,
let's open it up for questions.
Mr. Scott
Amann: Everett, let's go ahead with Q&A,
please.
Operator: Thank
you, sir.
Ladies
and gentlemen, at this time, we will be conducting a question and answer
session.
If you'd
like to ask a question, please press star-one on your telephone keypad at this
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Our first
question comes from the line of Jim Crandell with Barclays
Capital. Please proceed with your question.
Mr. Jim
Crandell: Morning, guys.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Morning, Jim.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Morning, Jim.
Mr. Jim
Crandell: First question I have is on the Subsea
area.
Jack, if
you look at the outlook for Subsea orders now, do you see the projects that you
originally thought that might happen in late '09 or the first half '010 pushed
out till much later, as well, so the whole--everything sort of moves to the
right, or is it just that the project that you thought would happen in '09 had
been pushed out?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Jim, if it would have been at the first of the year,
I'd have said--based on what we saw at the beginning of '09, I would have said
yes. We've seen projects move to the right.
Nothing
really surprises me where we're at today. You know, we continue to
see most every major project shift to the right, given just the amount of
uncertainty around, you know, the stability of price, and some of it's not just
price. Some of it's just partners and politics.
So,
really, you know, it's hard to say in this environment whether moving them to
the right is a function of the current environment or just the state of big
projects. We see all of them move to the right, more so now, I guess,
in this environment than we have in the past.
So,
yeah. We've--we have far less projects in '09. I think if
you look at the current Quest numbers, you know, they're predicting 400 trees
for '09 plus or minus, you know, what happens with Petrobras here on the next
lot. That's probably a lower number than we all thought it would be
going into this year, but not surprising where we sit today.
Mr. Jim
Crandell: Do you think that the awards that are taking place,
Jack, are becoming more price competitive?
Mr. Jack Moore: I
would say, just based on some of the feedback we've gotten, a recent project in
the North Sea would suggest that.
Mr. Jim
Crandell: Okay.
And
couple of questions about just specific fields. Where do you stand
now on the next phase of Block 31? Do you think that will be an order
during 2010?
And how
about the--you mentioned the large tenders in Brazil. How about the
pre-salt fields in Brazil?
Mr. Jack Moore: As
far as Block 31, the next phase, as I stated in the last call, we're working
closely with BP looking at the next developments in terms of, you know, how do
we work with them to take cost out of these projects.
I think
given, again, their outlook on price being maybe a little less bullish than
maybe they were a year ago, year and a half ago, my guess is that we'll see--you
know, we may see something at the end of '010, but probably most likely it's a
2011 event. I think it just kind of depends on how the--their outlook
over the next six months goes.
As far as
the 40 sub-salt trees, pre-salt trees that are being tendered currently, that
tender goes in next week. And, you know, it's a--12 trees for one
field, 18 for another. There's three bidders. My guess it
it'll be some time in the first quarter, first half of '010 before we find out
who wins those.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Twelve and--.
Mr. Jim
Crandell: --You think it'll be two winners?
Mr. Jack Moore: I'm
sorry, 22 and 18.
I'm
sorry?
Mr. Jim
Crandell: Do you think there'll be two winners?
Mr. Jack
Moore: There could be. Probably most likely I think
there will be. However, there is an option for one of the three
bidders to bid on all 40 trees if they so elect to do so.
Mr. Jim
Crandell: Okay.
And last
thing, Jack, you, I think, characterized the subsea tree outlook that there's a
lot of projects that are entering the backlog and not many falling
out. If you look at Quest's forecast from 2010 to 2013, they have us
up in the 800, 900-plus area for trees of 2012, 2013.
And
I'm--I mean, do you see things that rosy, that there's enough projects that
could make the number of subsea tree orders get that high by that time
period?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Jim, I think it really is going to get back to the
conviction that these operators have towards price. The potential is
there.
If you
look at the list we track on our global tracking system, it's just--you know,
it's page after page. And it's not just big projects. It's
a lot of little twos and threes all over the world that could be very rewarding
at certain price economics.
But--so,
my guess is it won't be 800 trees in the next five years, but it's going to be a
lot bigger number than it is today. And the rigs coming on-stream
over the next two to five years, the deepwater rigs that will be entering our
marketplace, definitely going to support the capability to do a lot more than
what we're seeing today.
Mr. Jim
Crandell: Great.
Thank
you.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Okay.
Operator: Thank
you.
Our next
question comes from the line of Bill Herbert with Simmons &
Company. Please proceed with your question.
Mr. Bill
Herbert: Thanks. Good morning.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Morning, Bill.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Morning, Bill.
Mr. Bill Herbert: I
think you've already answered my question, but I'll ask it anyway, by your
response with regard to projects slipping to the right.
But, the
question is, with regard to DPS revenues for 2010 at this stage, hazarding a
guess, do you think that revenues are flattish or down,
year-over-year?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: You know, Bill, we haven't gone through our budgeting
process, so I’m really--little hesitant to answer that question. But,
I will tell you, in the project-related Subsea businesses, those revenues will
be up quite a bit, and that'll become a more prominent part of the DPS mix in
2010.
Mr. Bill
Herbert: Okay.
And
drilling, I would suspect, would be likely lower. Surface, I couldn't
imagine--.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: --Drilling maybe.
Mr. Bill
Herbert: Yeah.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Drilling maybe.
Mr. Bill
Herbert: Okay.
Surface,
I wouldn't imagine it would be lower. Any thoughts on
surface?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Depends on the recovery of some of the short-cycle
businesses.
Mr. Bill
Herbert: Okay.
And
finally, Petroco--?
Mr. Jack
Moore: --We can turn backlog into revenue a lot quicker in
Surface than we can some of the major projects.
Mr. Bill
Herbert: Okay. Well, it doesn't sound that bad,
then.
Second
line of inquiry, with regard to V&M margins, Chuck, pretty strong showing in
the third quarter. What was the driver of that? Was it
mix, or what?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: It was that and the "what," as well. It was
mix, and then also it--it's that spot in the cycle where we're able to get
a--got a lot out of our supply chain on stuff that was priced, you know, a year
ago in the engineered world.
Mr. Bill
Herbert: Okay--.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: --So--.
Mr. Bill
Herbert: --So, counting on the latter, going forward, probably
a bit more tenuous? And how should we think about margins, going
forward?
Mr. Chuck Sledge: I
think probably in the V&M it's a safe bet that they're ultimately going to
trend downward. You've seen what's happened in the
backlogs. And so, the order of magnitude--we're not done with our
budgeting process, Bill, but my gut tells me they're going to come
down.
Mr. Bill
Herbert: Okay, that's all I have.
Thank you
very much.
Operator: Thank
you.
Our next
question comes from the line of Robin Shoemaker with
Citigroup. Please proceed with your question.
Mr. Robin
Shoemaker: Thank you. Good morning.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Morning, Robin.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Morning, Robin.
Mr. Robin
Shoemaker: Hi.
I wanted
to ask about--you mentioned in your press release the completion of the Romanian
facility expansion and your--in terms of your surface equipment plant
there. So, I know there was some strategic kind of re-organization
going on there in terms of your--how you address the supply chain issue with
this plant.
So, if we
think about, you know, the next couple of years, if there is a good, strong
recovery in the Surface Equipment market, how well--how are you positioned
differently for that versus where you've been?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Robin, this is Jack. Good
question.
And
we--we've had the luxury of being in Romania now for close to five years
operating a facility we made through an acquisition. And what we have
seen is its access to supply chain, its access to our markets relative to ship,
rail or road or truck transportation is exceptional. So, we feel
extremely good about their capability to meet global market to--requirements
from that location.
In--from
the standpoint of the facility itself, it is absolutely our most
state-of-the-art, modern manufacturing facility we've ever
built. It's absolutely amazing. And from--you know, from
our focus on investing in our business based on where we can drive our lowest
cost without compromise to quality or delivery, this really is a poster child
for that.
Mr. Robin
Shoemaker: Um-hmm. Okay, good.
On--I
just wanted to ask one question as--post- the acquisition of NATCO, you'll still
have a very strong balance sheet, liquidity, very, I guess, no net
debt. So, could you comment on, beyond this acquisition,
opportunities for further acquisitions in terms of willing sellers, the ability
to make any acquisition for cash as opposed to stock, and how you assess that
environment today?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Yeah, Robin, a couple things.
First of
all, my gut tells me, if you're a larger public company acquisition, or even
maybe a private equity, you're going to want some stock just to ride the
upside.
Secondly--and
you're still seeing valuation differences between buyers and sellers. And so,
you're going to have to be--in my view, be creative about how you solve that
difference, and, you know, you're able sometimes to find a way to skin the cat
to make both parties feel comfortable that, (1) they're not paying too much, (2)
they're not leaving too much on the table.
So, seen
more of a willingness to try to come up with creative structures that create
win-wins, so I think over here, the next 12 to 18 months on the smaller
acquisitions, you'll probably see a pick-up in the pace.
Mr. Robin
Shoemaker: On the smaller side?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Yes.
Mr. Robin
Shoemaker: Yeah. Okay.
And then,
on the--if you resume your share buyback post- this completion of the
acquisition, what is your remaining kind of authorization there? What
kind of magnitude or share repurchase authorization do you have, or would you
seek?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Yeah.
I think
we've got, you know, six to eight million shares--can't remember the exact
number--on the share repurchase program. But, you know, when we go
through that, we'll go to the Board and get another authorization.
Mr. Robin
Shoemaker: Right. Right. Got
it.
Thank
you.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: No problem.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Thanks.
Operator: Thank
you.
Our next
question comes from the line of Jeff Tillery with Tudor Pickering
Holt. Please proceed with your question.
Mr. Jeff
Tillery: Hi, good morning.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Hello, Jeff.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Morning, Jeff.
Mr. Jeff
Tillery: Jack, you discussed pricing on
Subsea. Could you discuss pricing more broadly? Do you
think it's bottomed in some of your shorter cycle businesses?
And then,
a question for Chuck is, when do you think kind of the most acute pressure from
the pricing discounts is felt? Is that kind of Q1 of next
year?
Mr. Jack Moore: On
the pricing for--I did mention the Subsea side of it, and it's really
project-to-project, I think, related. And we haven't--you know, I
will also say, in some areas of our business on Subsea, we--this--we have not
seen as much price come into play as is really more the confidence that the
customers have in your ability to execute and perform. And I think
that will continue to be the case on a lot of the major projects with a lot of
the international oil companies, especially.
On the
shorter cycle businesses, it's really a mixed bag. It's
geographically driven, where we have--where we may have a lot of competitors in
one geographic market, we'll see a lot more price pressure. And on
the lower pressure-related equipment, we'll see a lot of price
pressure.
But, in
the high pressure applications, you know, our margins for our surface equipment,
for instance, in the high-pressure shale plays is holding up fairly
well. I think, again, customers want to make sure whoever they work
with have the capabilities to execute on their work, and it narrows the playing
field down quite a bit.
We've
seen a lot of price pressure in our Valve markets around the
world. And here we have a little different set of dynamics relative
to the competition, not a whole lot of big household names, a lot of family
run-type business, a lot of niche players. So, we tend to see a
little more, I guess, challenge--challenges us sometimes to understand what the
pricing philosophy is with some of these folks.
But,
that's kind of been the case with these markets for a while, so we continue
to--you know, I think, continue to wrestle with that.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Jeff, as far as the margins and the bottoming of the
margins--again, preference all by we haven't seen the roll-up of our budget
yet--but remind you that the first quarter is always traditionally, within
Cameron, pretty weak compared to the fourth quarter. And then, I'm
not sure exactly how that will play out this year, but absent any unexpected
moves in pricing or cost, you know, you'd probably see a bottom in margins some
time middle of next year.
Mr. Jeff
Tillery: And then, Jack, just with regards to timing of some
of these Subsea projects, one of your competitors, I think it was on a call last
week, seemed to indicate they felt the timing was firming on more of these
projects. The way you've talked about it so far, doesn't seem like
you're quite there in seeing the timing firm. Would you agree with
that statement?
And then,
just how would you characterize, overall, orders for next year in
Subsea? More back-end weighted than front-end at this
point?
Mr. Jack Moore: I
would--you know, I would say that we've never been very good at guessing the
timing of the major projects. We've always been more optimistic in
terms of when they would be awarded.
So, I
don't see anything different in this environment that would tend to change it,
other than a lot of the projects--I would probably agree with maybe the
consensus out there that a lot of these projects have been on hold and have been
sitting for a while, are going to start to roll out.
You know,
we--as I said, our list of projects in the queue is growing. It's not
shrinking. And these projects are going to roll out, I think, sooner
than later relative to the number of rigs that are coming on-stream to support
both the drilling campaigns and the completion campaigns associated with
them.
So,
probably a little mixed bag, but I would tend to still say that it's probably
back-half weighted in '010 and a much stronger '011, just given, I think, the
environment we're in today.
Mr. Jeff
Tillery: And then, my last question, for Q4--so, Q3 book to
bill is greater than one for the first time in a while. If Jack St.
Malo hits, do you need any other large projects to hit in Q4 for, you think,
book to bill greater than one in Q4?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Well, I would say that, you know, our Q4 is--you know,
in anyone's Q4, looking at the timing of any projects is going to be somewhat
dependent on these big projects hitting. But, if Jack St. Malo was to
be awarded and Cameron was to win it, I think that would be good for our quarter
bookings.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Yeah. That certainly would give us some
breathing room on the book-to-bill.
Mr. Jeff
Tillery: Thank you very much, guys.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Yeah.
Operator: Thank
you.
Our next
question comes from the line of Dan Boyd with Goldman Sachs. Please
proceed with your question.
Mr. Dan
Boyd: Hi. Thanks.
I'd like
to follow up on valves where, not only were margins strong, but revenue was also
strong sequentially. Given that orders are starting to pick up, but
you're also potentially fighting some decline maybe in the--from prior orders
and backlog flipping a little bit or pricing, but how should we think about the
progression of revenue from here? As distributed valves start to come
back, you know, should we expect the revenue to only go up from
here?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: No, we're currently forecasting, Dan, to be quite
honest, relatively flat here for a few quarters.
Mr. Dan
Boyd: Okay.
And then,
a potential up tick in the back half of next year, which could leave--could
actually still keep revenue flattish to slightly up next year - is that
correct?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: It all depends on what happens in the shorter cycle
business, and it's too early to call. We've not seen enough of an
increase to probably get you there yet. But, it all depends on what
your forecast is for the back half of the year activity US rig
count.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Yeah, Dan, the--you know, we've seen--I think we
clearly have seen a bottom with respect to our short cycle
businesses. Just how strong we'll see in terms of it coming off that
bottom is unknown.
Keep in
mind that a lot of our customers still have a lot of inventory they're working
through. So, as they work through those inventories--and for some,
it'll be a longer period of time than others--we'll continue to see that--the
bookings in those businesses slowly climb back. But, it could be at
least another couple of quarters. We're seeing appreciable growth
from where we are today.
Mr. Dan
Boyd: Okay.
And, I
mean, with flat revenues, when we look at margins, it's really then just the
pricing impact rolling through that should impact in there. Is that
just a couple hundred basis points from here of potential down
side?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Could be, but depends on what happens to
cost. You know, you have not seen--I also point out, Dan, you've not
seen in engineered valves the impact of the lower pricing on orders we've taken
over the last 12 months. That has not yet hit the
results. So--.
Mr. Dan
Boyd: --This is--and optimistically speaking, we could keep
margins relatively flattish in V&M.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: No.
Mr. Dan
Boyd: No. Okay.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: No, they're gonna trend down.
Mr. Jack Moore: I
think mix with engineered valves is gonna impact that to some
degree.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Yeah.
Mr. Dan
Boyd: Okay.
And then,
just lastly on the Petrobras order, I assume some of the related tools and
equipment may have fallen to the fourth quarter. Can you maybe give
us an update of what you've booked in the third and what may have fallen into
the fourth?
Mr. Jack
Moore: That's a good point, and what we booked in the third
quarter was strictly the trees.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Three hundred million.
Mr. Dan
Boyd: Okay.
So, we
could see 100 million or a little above that fall into the fourth then to help
support orders.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Yeah.
Mr. Dan
Boyd: Okay.
Thanks. I'll
turn it back over.
Operator: Thank
you.
Our next
question comes from the line of Geoff Kieburtz with The Weeden
Group. Please proceed with your question.
Mr. Geoff
Kieburtz: Thanks. Good morning.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Morning, Geoff.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Good morning.
Mr. Geoff
Kieburtz: Let's see - remaining questions.
With your
comment that you think margins overall will sort of find a bottom in the middle
of 2010, does that--I mean, it seems to imply that you don't see a lot of long
term margin pressure on the longer cycle businesses. You talked about
pricing pressures in, you know, the longer cycle businesses. But,
with--am I right in thinking that's not so severe? Otherwise, you
might expect a longer pressure on the margins?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: The one where we have seen pressure in longer cycle is
engineered valves.
Mr. Geoff
Kieburtz: Okay.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Okay?
So,
that's the one that really has seen the most pressure.
Mr. Geoff
Kieburtz: And that's yet to be reflected in the
numbers?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: That is correct.
Mr. Geoff
Kieburtz: Okay.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Keep in mind, too, Jeff, that, you know, yes, we've
seen some competitive pressure on margins relative to price. Don't
underestimate the, you know, the impact that we will get from the investments we
made back into our manufacturing environment. And that's helped us a
lot. That's helped us rationalize some of our cost on these projects
going forward.
And, you
know, our job is to keep as much of that as we can. But, as we see
margins come under pressure from the price standpoint, you know, that is
a--that's a wonderful position to be in if you're got a low cost
position.
Mr. Geoff
Kieburtz: So, you--your comment about so far being able to cut
costs, you know, ahead of pricing, you think you'll be able to largely but not
completely continue to achieve that outcome.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Well, we'll continue to push on it, but I still would
agree with Chuck's comments is that a lot of the projects we booked in the last
12 months had been at lower prices.
Mr. Geoff
Kieburtz: Right.
Mr. Jack Moore: And
that's gonna flow through our revenue here in the coming 12 months.
Mr. Geoff
Kieburtz: You had mentioned that you booked a stack in the
quarter.
Mr. Jack Moore: We
did. For those of you who do not believe that drilling equipment is
still being ordered for deep water, it is. It's alive and
well
Mr. Geoff
Kieburtz: My question was, as you look at the rigs on order,
do you have an approximate number of how many are--well, how many of the ones
that you have a pretty high confidence being built haven't ordered stacks
yet?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Well, I would say there's probably a small handful
outside of the Petrobras stacks. And really, the, you know, the near
term future for the deep water new builds is gonna be Petrobras and those that
are gonna be awarded those by Petrobras to be built in country. So,
those are the ones I think everyone is really focused on today.
Mr. Geoff
Kieburtz: Sure. Okay.
And a bit
of a technical question - to what degree do you expect NATCO's technology to be
an asset in dealing with the CO2 issue in the pre-salt in Brazil?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Well, I think it's significant. When you
look at the work they're doing with Petrobras and have been doing on Cynara
membrane technology, which clearly is one of the most sufficient methods of
removing C02, it is--it's clearly gonna be a huge advantage once we're able to
bring that into Cameron's capabilities, whether it be local content support,
marinization ultimately, all those things are clearly gonna be advantageous to
the customers relative to having the combination of NATCO in
Cameron. So, it's a huge opportunity.
Mr. Geoff
Kieburtz: Has NATCO done anything in terms of being able to
put that technology on the sea bed?
Mr. Jack Moore: The
Cynara membrane technology? No.
Mr. Geoff
Kieburtz: Okay. Thank you.
Operator: Thank
you.
Our next
question comes from the line of Roger Read with Natixis
Bleichroeder. Please proceed with your question.
Mr. Roger
Read: Yeah, good morning, gentlemen.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Morning, Roger.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Morning, Roger.
Mr. Roger
Read: Yeah, real quick, I guess maybe to understand some of
what's going on in just the underlying businesses here, whether it's DPS, valves
and measurement, etc., aftermarket sales - I mean, is that part of the mix that
we're seeing help the margins out?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: No, I think it's primarily the--what we talked about
earlier, which is just ability to get cost out. That's really what's
driving the margin.
Mr. Roger
Read: Okay.
So, are
your customers still hesitant to--I mean, you made a comment earlier about, you
know, customers have a lot of inventory to work off. I mean, could
that be part of what could impact 2010 - they work the inventory off this year,
you start selling more parts next year, which helps margins?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: That could potentially happen.
Mr. Roger
Read: Okay.
And what
would--what does pricing look like along that side? Is that also
under pressure, the way the new equipment is, or does it tend to be more stable
over time?
Mr. Jack Moore: You
know, I would just characterize the pricing environment going forward as a
little bit of an unknown. We--in the aftermarket side, you know, it's
held up pretty well and it will continue to hold up pretty well. On
new product side, it would tend to, I think, get, you know, get handicapped to
some degree by the geography and the--and where it's applied.
Mr. Roger
Read: Okay.
That's
all for me. Thanks.
Operator: Thank
you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Urban with
Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.
Mr. Mike
Urban: Thanks. Good morning.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Morning, Mike.
Mr. Mike Urban: So,
a lot of questions on the margin profile here going forward - I was just
wondering if we could kind of wrap this all up, and is it a fair statement to
say that the margin decline that you expect overall is somewhat of a foregoing
conclusion in the near term given the--what's in the backlog, and then just the
mitigating factor in terms of, you know, how steep that is and when it recovers
and how sharply it's gonna be a function of the recovery in the short cycle
businesses?
Mr. Chuck Sledge: I
think that's a good way to put it.
Mr. Mike
Urban: Okay, good.
And then,
kind of a broader question - Jack, you've talked about the investments that
you've made in the service business to attack the shale market. You
talked about the transformation in the--or I guess you said reinventing
themselves in the compression business.
Are there
other opportunities like that, things that you might not have done in the past,
things that have not been traditional Cameron businesses that you're targeting
in any of your business lines across the portfolio?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Well, I would--I could go through a list of them maybe
showing a little bit of our strategic intent going forward. But,
there's--you know, when you look at Cameron's enterprise, it is really amazing
with all the capabilities we have when you connect some of the
dots.
And I
think we've learned this through our shale gas initiatives and some of the other
initiatives we've taken on, whether it be focused around LNG or gas storage in
other areas of the business and even country specific. But, there is
always gonna be room to improve our market penetration relative to leveraging
the Cameron brand.
And
that’s' really what a lot of our focus has really been. The guys have
really switched on in the last year as these markets started to turn, you know,
how do we really differentiate ourselves relative to not only our competitive
landscape, but also just the historical way we've worked.
And some
customers are very open to it, and some are still more traditional in how they
want to acquire services and products. So, we'll continue to push
it. I think there's still a lot of opportunity, and we will continue
to leverage where we can the Cameron portfolio to exploit it.
Mr. Mike Urban: So,
a lot of the opportunity is in, you know, working across product lines and
leveraging that opportunity set.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Absolutely. I think, you know, we've always
talked about the fit, you know, that we enjoy between, you know, wellheads and
valves and measurement and compressions. And why we really love the
NATCO story is the separation is, you know, it sits in between all of this and,
you know, just how wonderful it's gonna be to have a company that is really big
into it that's gonna touch so many other parts of Cameron.
And, you
know, we transfer this--you know, as we evolved as a subsea company over the
years, all of this evolves to the subsea space. And marinizing a lot
of this technology are things that, you know, we continue to work on
collectively. But, there--you know, you still have to remember that
99 percent of the wells being completed around the world are completed on shore
or on off shore platform, and that is still a huge market that we want to be
very focused on going forward, as well.
Mr. Mike
Urban: Great. Thank you.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Thanks.
Operator: Thank
you.
Our next
question comes from the line of Stephen Gengaro with Jefferies and
Company. Please proceed with your question.
Mr. Stephen
Gengaro: Thanks. Good morning,
gentlemen.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Morning, Stephen.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Morning, Stephen.
Mr. Stephen
Gengaro: Just two quick follow ups - the first, Chuck, you
mentioned the drop in the tax rate sequentially. It sounded like from
your comments it should remain at around that level or lower. Is that
a fair conclusion, or are there things which could make it go
higher?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: That's a pretty fair conclusion. It could
always go higher, depending on where the revenue is recognized. But,
our current thinking is that it's not gonna go any higher than it is
today.
Mr. Stephen
Gengaro: And can you give us a sense for where it might be
next year? I mean, is the 26 percent range a good guess right
now?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: That's a good guess. We've got to finish
rolling up our budgets, but that's a good starting point.
Mr. Stephen
Gengaro: And then, my second question, and it's--I know it's
back to the margins, which you're probably sick of talking
about. But, when you look at the order from Petrobras, do you feel
like you have the infrastructure in place down there, A, to execute that around
the margin levels we've seen over the last year, or is that gonna be part of
what pressures margins going forward?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Stephen, no, we're--this is Jack--we're quite
comfortable with where we are. Again, we've made a lot of investment
in Brazil over the last three years to focus on cost internally and optimize our
infrastructure.
We have
lots of footprint. We've, you know, we've added a substantial amount
of property both in our Taubate facility and our Macae aftermarket facilities
over the last couple of years. We have the ability to expand and, you
know, given the campaigns we've had over the last several years of building out
facilities, improving facilities, we have a lot of internal horsepower to get
that done.
So, we're
quite comfortable where we're at in Brazil with both our infrastructure
footprint today, our ability to control costs and deliver on the margins we
expect to generate down there, and we're happy with it.
Mr. Stephen
Gengaro: And then, just I guess one final follow up on Brazil
- any--as we look at the orders coming up there, the subsalt trees, and then
also the manifold, you mentioned the subsalt trees. How do you feel
on the manifold side as far as, you know, Cameron's participation in that, and
if you were to, sort of how that impacts your capacity down there?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Well, we've--you know, and I've said this probably
before. You know, Cameron has a long track record of building
manifolds all over the world. We've just never done it in
Brazil. We haven't had the, we felt, the competitive cost position to
be able to do it, A, to compete, and B, to make money at it.
And we've
worked on that the last few years. Our guys down there have taken
this initiative on. We've put our manifold team in
place. We have put one in place in Brazil to focus on this
opportunity. We are actively bidding this, you know, this current,
you know, project that--or the current agreement that Petrobras is putting out
there, lots one and two of the manifold bids.
And
hopefully, we'll be successful. If we're not, we'll continue to work
it. And we will be building manifolds in Brazil, you know, one way or
the other. And I would tell you that Brazil and Petrobras are gonna
be very anxious for us to get there.
Mr. Stephen
Gengaro: Great. Thank you.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Thanks.
Operator: Thank
you.
Our next
question comes from the line of Joe Gibney with Capital One. Please
proceed with your question.
Mr. Joe
Gibney: Thanks. Good morning, guys.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Morning, Joe.
Mr. Joe
Gibney: Most of my questions are asked and
answered. Just want to follow up on a few minor points. On
the surface side, certainly encouraging from a plus 30 percent on the bookings
front sequentially. Jack, you mentioned some recovery in the Rockies
and certainly some directional trends being positive in the shales.
But, how
much of that mix was domestic North America shorter cycle surface versus your
international, which is typically more 50 percent of that
business? Just curious on a sequential data what's happening in North
America there?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Actually, quite a bit of it was in North America, which
was a nice surprise. And we did pick up some incremental bookings in
North Africa and in Europe on a couple of projects. But, a good chunk
of the growth was in North America, and a lot of it was focused in our regions
where the shale initiatives have been launched.
Mr. Joe
Gibney: Okay.
Chuck, on
the Cap Ex side, just a minor tweak up versus where we were last
quarter. Is this just some incremental spend on machine tool sets and
efficiency emphasis as it has been in the past?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Yes, it is.
Mr. Joe
Gibney: Okay.
And then,
just referencing that back to the V&M side, and certainly you have some
pricing implanted here. We're gonna have some pressure over the next
couple quarters. Do you anticipate getting any kind of a tailwind in
the margin side as you roll into a little bit higher run rate out of
Romania? You mentioned in your release you're up and running in
October and not quite up to full capacity yet, but any potential benefit there
given the efficiencies on [unintelligible] in this facility?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Well, the Romanian plant will add some benefit to the
margin. Whether it gets overcome by other factors is still yet to be
seen. But, the margins out of the Romania product versus where we
used to make it will be quite a bit better.
Mr. Joe
Gibney: Okay.
And,
Jack, every quarter I ask you about compression, and every quarter, they just
kill it versus my model here, so these guys executing quite
well. What specifically is happening on the order front that
certainly held things in here in a pretty tough environment? So, it's
been pretty surprisingly resilient here.
Mr. Jack Moore: It
is. And, Joe, you're right. They surprise me
sometimes. But, I know that they're not satisfied with it, which is
always good to have that attitude.
They
are--they really focused a lot on international, and I would say that's the key
to it. They've gotten out of their historical focus, which was just a
handful of customers in North America, to being much more focused on the
international markets.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Yeah. And, Joe, what's driven the really
good financial performance this year has been the backlog that they came into
the year with. So, you know, they're doing good things on trying to
replace that backlog. But, as that backlog comes down, they're gonna
have to work hard--.
Mr. Joe
Gibney: --Okay--.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: --And they know that.
Mr. Joe
Gibney: And, Chuck, one last one there - on the cancelations
in the quarter, the 16 million, could you repeat for me the backlog at risk and
any color on what specifically did come out?
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Well, okay. The 16 million of cancellations
was primarily in the compression group.
Mr. Joe
Gibney: Okay.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: The backlog at risk that I spoke about is one we've
been speaking about for some quarters, and that's the rigs without
contracts.
Mr. Joe
Gibney: Right.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: That's 178.
Mr. Joe Gibney: One
seventy-eight.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: So, I think, overall, cancellations have had a
virtually nil impact on Cameron this year.
Mr. Joe
Gibney: Good deal. Thanks, guys. I'll
turn it back.
Operator: Thank
you.
Ladies
and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, you may do so by
pressing star, one.
Our next
question comes from the line of Brian Uhlmer with Pritchard. Please
with your question.
Mr. Brian
Uhlmer: Good morning, gentlemen.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Morning, Brian.
Mr. Brian
Uhlmer: I've got a couple of quick questions. I'm
looking out to 2011. I'm trying to figure out what kind of capacity
you’re gonna have in Southeast Asia and when the Johor expansion's expected to
be completed.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Well, as--we will finish our expansion in the Johor
facility this year - in fact, just pretty darn close to being finished
now. And so, my expectation is between now and January, it will be
complete.
So, we'll
have the--we'll have ample capacity there to support that market from a deep
water standpoint. And as you may or may not know, we've had
infrastructure in Singapore for quite some time. And we have quite a
bit of capability there from the surface to support the surface markets there as
well as Potom.
And then,
our facilities in Australia really are supporting our aftermarket facilities
there, which will be beneficial to us.
And the
other thing is we picked up a--I talked briefly about it, but we did pick up an
acquisition in Australia for our process valve markets, a company called
Geographe that's very well positioned in Australia and really supports all of
that Asian market from an aftermarket standpoint for valves, which we intend to
leverage in a few other arenas.
Mr. Brian
Uhlmer: Okay.
From the
subsea side, can you send overflow capacity from Johor down to Singapore, and
have you been doing that?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Really, the reason we built Johor is to get it out of
Singapore and focus, you know, the--focus their attention 100 percent on
subsea. So, where we've been able to--we've actually moved product
from leads and primarily to Johor--.
Mr. Brian
Uhlmer: --Okay--.
Mr. Jack
Moore: --Supported it.
Mr. Brian
Uhlmer: All right. You've already started
that.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Yes.
Mr. Brian
Uhlmer: Good deal.
Is there
kind of a capacity number you can throw out in terms of trees per year, you
know, plus or minus some range?
Mr. Jack Moore: I'd
say it depends on what tree--on what the tree looks like. But, you
know, as we said, it's probably somewhere between 175 and 200 and company-wide,
company-wide.
Mr. Brian
Uhlmer: Oh, that's company-wide, yeah.
Mr. Jack Moore: Not
just in Johor. That number in Johor is probably 40 to 50
today.
Mr. Brian
Uhlmer: Forty to 50.
Mr. Jack
Moore: But, it, you know, it can flex, given the type of tree
it is.
Mr. Brian
Uhlmer: Good deal.
That
really answers all my questions. Thanks a lot, guys.
Operator: Thank
you.
Our next
question comes from the line of David Griffus with Copia
Capital. Please proceed with your question. David Griffus,
your line is now live.
Mr. David
Griffus: Hey. Good morning, guys. Thank
you.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Morning, David.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Morning, David.
Mr. David
Griffus: I had a quick question about your exposure to
Mexico. I guess, one, the--how much is it, and then, you know, two,
you know, do you have an outlook for that market in the upcoming
year?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Well, Mexico for us is--we're not a turnkey player
there, so some of the questions around Chicontepec and how that may evolve over
the coming years--while we would be an interested party, some of that work is
being supported on a turnkey basis by competitors. So, that we don’t
have as much exposure to.
But, in
overall Mexico, we have a fairly active operation down there in Vera Cruz where
we manufacture a lot of the surface wellhead that's being consumed in
country. We've had a very active position there for many, many
years. We've got a very good relationship with PEMEX, and as well as
some of the other--a few of the operators there that have been working turnkey -
Schlumberger, for instance.
And so,
we feel very fortunate to be in that position and also in a good position in
terms of how their business will move forward. Mexico is gonna
struggle to keep production moving.
You saw
our announcement with Petreco and our processing systems business down
there. That's got a lot of potential future that I think you're gonna
see a lot of that technology being applied in these old fields. And
we're, you know, we're gonna be actively pursuing that.
Mr. David
Griffus: Great. That's all I had for
you. Thank you.
Operator: Thank
you.
Our next
question comes from the line of Brad Handler with Credit
Suisse. Please proceed with your question.
Mr. Brad
Handler: Thanks, guys. Good morning.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Morning, Brad.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: Morning, Brad.
Mr. Brad
Handler: You mentioned early on in the call some success in
India and China, and I guess I was just hoping to draw out some more from you on
that and the prospects over the next couple of quarters for more
orders. So, maybe you could speak to that broadly.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Well, primarily, it's been in the, you know, it's been
in the valve and it's been in our compression side of the
business. The infrastructure there, that pipeline infrastructure as
well as gas processing and receiving terminals, it's probably been the most
active market for Cameron in the last 12 months relative to the infrastructure
type pieces of business. And a lot of that is just the money that
they're pouring back into their local economies.
And so,
we've been in a good position there. We've, you know, we've moved
some of our manufacturing capacity over the years into China directly to
position ourselves to support the local markets for those kind of activities,
and that's paid off.
As far as
on the oil and gas side, I think, you know, it will continue to be, you know,
driven by the pricing environment that we see. So, I would say that
we'll--you know, we're in a good position to participate on that end of the
market, but I think it's gonna be, you know, probably not as robust as we've
seen on the infrastructure side.
Mr. Brad
Handler: I'm sorry. Is it lower end applications,
and so you're seeing more price competition from local suppliers?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Well, I think that's true. You know, on the
real shallow well environment, especially in China, you know, a lot of the local
suppliers support that market. It's just not one that Cameron has
been focused on and could be competitive on. So, that's kind of been
the situation with it.
Mr. Brad
Handler: Okay.
Just to
stick with it for one more follow up, in terms of the pipeline and the gas
processing, presumably, these are multi-year opportunities, or was there sort of
a big slug that has gone through and you've won your allotted share, and
perhaps, now your attention moves to the oil and gas side?
Mr. Jack Moore: No,
I think, you know, it's a good story that's gonna continue to
evolve. You know, they continue to build out their
infrastructure. It's not a one shot deal for them.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: If you look at--I'll add, if you look at some of the
industry forecasts, they look a lot like the Quest data--.
Mr. Jack
Moore: --Yeah--.
Mr. Chuck
Sledge: --That hockey stick's quite large, but it does tend to
slip to the right.
Mr. Brad
Handler: Got it, got it, okay.
Unrelated
follow up - on the Petrobras rig awards, as you mentioned, a lot of that as it
relates to your stacks, what are you doing, what do you need to do to best
position yourself for that--for those opportunities as they roll through, and
how do you see your potential there?
Mr. Jack
Moore: Well, the award of the stack in this quarter was for
Sevan. It wasn't in Brazil. But, it may ultimately be
going to Brazil, but time will tell.
As far as
Brazil itself, you know, what's really gonna drive, I think, the--and I look at
this from a long term view is really companies' ability to support them
locally. Cameron has been in Brazil quite a long
time. We're one of the very few companies that support our own
drilling equipment in country and the only ones directly that do
that.
And I
think that is, you know, that's set very well not only with Petrobras, but with
the local rig contractors. You know, Cameron is there in their own
backyard with their own--you know, with our capabilities to completely support
all of their needs from a drilling support aspect.
As far as
the new build contracts, there's only two companies that are on the ASL and
that's NOV and Aker with Maritime Hydraulics. And we have been
working closely with Maritime Hydraulics over the years, have worked with them
to support many of the new build stacks that are going to various parts of the
world, and we'll continue to work with them in this environment, as well, as we
move forward.
Mr. Brad
Handler: How do you position your rig--essentially, the Aker,
your partnered rig design, how do you kind of insert yourself in that process,
or does Petrobras do that insertion for you?
Mr. Jack Moore: No,
I--you know, we have jointly worked very closely together for the last several
years to, you know, leverage the best that we both bring. And that's
just through a lot of cooperation and collaboration with our mutual
teams. That's not really driven by Petrobras.
Mr. Brad
Handler: Okay. Makes sense.
Thanks,
guys. That's all for me.
Mr. Jack
Moore: Okay.
Operator: Thank
you.
Ladies
and gentlemen, we have no further questions at this time. I'd like to
turn the floor back to management.
Mr. Scott
Amann: Okay.
Thank
you, Everett, and thanks to all of you for joining us this morning.
Operator: Ladies
and gentlemen, this concludes today's teleconference, and you may disconnect
your lines at this time. Thank you for your
participation.
Forward-Looking
Statements
Information
set forth in this document may contain forward-looking statements, which involve
a number of risks and uncertainties. Cameron cautions readers that
any forward-looking information is not a guarantee of future performance and
that actual results could differ materially from those contained in the
forward-looking information. Such forward-looking statements include, but are
not limited to, statements about the benefits of the business combination
transaction involving Cameron and NATCO, including future financial and
operating results, the new company’s plans, objectives, expectations and
intentions and other statements that are not historical facts.
The
following additional factors, among others, could cause actual results to differ
from those set forth in the forward-looking statements: the ability to satisfy
the closing conditions of the transaction, including obtaining regulatory
approvals for the transaction and the approval of the merger agreement by the
NATCO stockholders; the risk that the businesses will not be integrated
successfully; the risk that the cost savings and any other synergies from the
transaction may not be fully realized or may take longer to realize than
expected; disruption from the transaction making it more difficult to maintain
relationships with customers, employees or suppliers; the impact of other
acquisitions that Cameron or NATCO have made or may make before the transaction;
competition and its effect on pricing; and exploration and development spending
by E&P operators. Additional factors that may affect future results are
contained in Cameron’s and NATCO’s filings with the Securities and Exchange
Commission (“SEC”), which are
available at the SEC’s web site http://www.sec.gov. Cameron
and NATCO disclaim any obligation to update and revise statements contained in
these materials based on new information or otherwise.
Additional
Information and Where to Find It
In
connection with the proposed merger, Cameron has filed with the SEC a
Registration Statement on Form S-4 and NATCO has filed a proxy statement, which
has been mailed to NATCO’s stockholders. INVESTORS AND SECURITY HOLDERS ARE
URGED TO CAREFULLY READ THE S-4 AND PROXY STATEMENT REGARDING THE PROPOSED
MERGER BECAUSE THEY CONTAIN IMPORTANT INFORMATION. You may obtain a
free copy of the S-4 and proxy statement and other related documents filed by
Cameron and NATCO with the SEC at the SEC’s website at www.sec.gov. The
S-4 and proxy statement and the other documents may also be obtained for free by
accessing Cameron’s website at www.c-a-m.com under
the heading “Investor Relations” and then under the heading “SEC Filings” or by
accessing NATCO’s website at www.natcogroup.com
under the tab “Investor Relations” and then under the heading “SEC
Filings”.
Participants
in the Solicitation
NATCO and
its directors, executive officers and certain other members of management and
employees may be soliciting proxies from its stockholders in favor of the
merger. Information regarding the persons who may, under the rules of the SEC,
be considered participants in the solicitation of the stockholders in connection
with the proposed merger are set forth in NATCO’s proxy statement filed with the
SEC. You can find information about NATCO’s executive officers and directors in
their definitive proxy statement filed with the SEC on March 23, 2009. You can
obtain free copies of these documents from NATCO’s website as stated
above.