Filed by
Affiliated Computer Services, Inc.
Pursuant
to Rule 425 under the Securities Act of 1933
and
deemed filed pursuant to Rule 14a-12 under the Securities Exchange Act of
1934
Subject
Company: Affiliated Computer Services, Inc.
Commission
File No.: 1-12665
CORPORATE
PARTICIPANTS
Ursula
Burns
Xerox
Corporation - CEO
Larry
Zimmerman
Xerox
Corporation - Vice Chairman, CFO
Lynn
Blodgett
Affiliated
Computer Services, Inc. - President, CEO
CONFERENCE
CALL PARTICIPANTS
Ben
Reitzes
Barclays
Capital - Analyst
Shannon
Cross
Cross
Research - Analyst
Keith
Bachman
BMO
Capital Markets - Analyst
Ananda
Baruah
Brean
Murray, Carret & Co. - Analyst
Mark
Moskowitz
JPMorgan
- Analyst
Jason
Kupferberg
UBS
- Analyst
PRESENTATION
Operator
Good
morning and welcome to the Xerox Corporation third-quarter 2009 earnings release
conference call hosted by Ursula Burns, Chief Executive Officer. She is joined
by Larry Zimmerman, Vice Chairman and Chief Financial
Officer.
During
this call, Xerox executives will refer to slides that are available on the web
at www.Xerox.com/investor. At the request of Xerox Corporation, today's
conference call is being recorded. Other recording and/or rebroadcasting of this
call are prohibited without express permission of Xerox. After the presentation
there will be a question-and-answer session. (Operator
Instructions)
Some of
the subject matter discussed during this conference call will be addressed in a
joint proxy statement and prospectus to be filed with the Securities and
Exchange Commission. We urge investors and security holders of Xerox and
Affiliated Computer Services to read it when it becomes available because it
will contain important information. You will be able to obtain free copies of
the joint proxy statement and prospectus when available, and other documents
filed with the SEC by Xerox and ACS, through the Internet site maintained by the
SEC at www.SEC.gov.
During
this conference call, Xerox executives will make comments that contain
forward-looking statements which, by their nature, address matters that are in
the future and are uncertain. Actual future financial results may be materially
different than those expressed herein.
At this
time I would like to turn the meeting over to Ms. Burns. Ms. Burns, you may
begin.
Ursula Burns - Xerox
Corporation - CEO
Good
morning and thanks for joining us today. In addition to reviewing our
third-quarter earnings this morning, we'll also provide more detail on our
acquisition of Affiliated Computer Services. We know you have more questions,
and we want to ensure we are covering the key topics on your minds.
First,
Larry and I will provide a review of our third-quarter results and
fourth-quarter guidance. We will then turn the discussion to the ACS
acquisition, highlighting the revenue and profit synergy cases as well as our
pro forma financial profile. Lynn Blodgett, the CEO of ACS, is with us today and
will join Larry and me for our questions.
So we
have a lot to cover and we expect the call will last longer than usual, so that
we can have plenty of time for your questions. Let's get started with a review
of our third quarter on slide 4.
We
delivered $0.14 earnings per share, which is above our $0.10 to $0.12
expectation and reflects our continued disciplined approach to managing cash and
reducing costs. As a result, we are raising our expectations for full-year
earnings to $0.55 to $0.57 per share, excluding fourth-quarter ACS transaction
costs.
Third-quarter
total revenue of $3.7 billion was down 16% including a 2-point negative impact
from currency. Wholesale and financing revenue was down 9% in constant currency,
and equipment sale revenue declined 28% in constant currency.
Just as
we are closely managing costs, our customers are doing the same; and we have not
seen a meaningful shift toward increased spending on technology. For many of our
business clients, small to large, there remains a hesitancy to invest until more
economic factors shows signs of steady improvement. We expect this trend will
continue to put pressure on revenue for the balance of the year. So we
maintaining our sharp focus on operational improvement, and we're benefiting
from restructuring actions taken earlier this year.
Gross
margin improved over half a point from last year to 39.8%. Selling,
administrative, and general expenses were down $131 million. Third-quarter
operating cash flow was $610 million.
Through
the third quarter, we generated $1.2 billion in operating cash flow. This strong
performance gives us confidence to increase our cash flow expectations for the
full year to $1.7 billion, up from our previous guidance of $1.5
billion.
We ended
the third quarter with a cash balance of $1.2 billion. With total debt down $938
million year-to-date, we will reduce overall debt by more than $1 billion this
year.
So let's
turn to slide 5 for a bit more detail on revenue. Revenue results are generally
consistent with what we saw in quarter 2. We've talked about the recession
impacting our business in three key areas, and these patterns continued in the
third quarter.
First,
the overall slowdown in business activity has lowered demand for supplies,
especially in heavily document-driven processes. The second area is what I
touched on earlier, customers delaying spending on technology until there are
stronger signs of economic improvement. And third, in certain hard-hit
developing markets, access to credit is still a challenge, resulting in slower
demand for new technology.
We are
maintaining or growing market share by focusing on innovation and customer
value. That's why we've been successful in winning new business with our managed
print services that reduce clients' document costs by as much as 30%. It's also
why we've moved forward with 27 product launches this year. And it's why we
expanded our distribution through new global imaging companies and partnerships
with more resellers around the world.
The
launch earlier this year of the Xerox ColorQube is showing early signs of
success. This product cuts the cost of color printing by up to 62%, and we just
started the rollout of the product in Europe. We will extend it out to
developing markets next year.
In our
production business, where the economy has been especially difficult for some of
our graphic arts customers, we demonstrated our continued commitment to an
investment in digital printing at the recent Print 09 tradeshow. We introduced
13 new products at the show, including the North American premiere of our
digital packaging solution. And we sold more than a dozen iGens. We believe will
see some improvement in our production color business as the Xerox 7002 and 8002
presses ramp in Europe.
To sum it
up, we are performing well in the operational areas of our business that
mitigate these tough economic challenges. And we are maintaining our focus in
many key investment areas that will benefit us when the economy
improves.
Now I'll
turn it over to Larry, who will share more detail about our financials.
Larry?
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
Thank
you, Ursula, and good morning. Third-quarter results continue to show the
strength of our model. We exceeded both earnings and cash generation in a
challenging environment, economically as well as seasonally. We continue to take
aggressive actions to deliver results as well as to provide us with upward
leverage going forward.
Let's
move to my first slide. Our revenue trend was consistent with what we have
experienced this year, with somewhat better compares on currency. Gross profit
margin was 39.8%, up 6/10 of a point year-over-year, and represents good cost
performance especially given the revenue seasonality.
Both
R&D and SAG declined as our restructuring and expense actions continue to
deliver. R&D was down $19 million and SAG was down $131 million, $101
million in constant currency. Operating margin was 6.7%; given the revenue
seasonality, good performance.
EPS was
$0.14 compared to our guidance of $0.10 to $0.12 and includes about $0.01 of
transaction costs associated with the recent announcement of our acquisition of
ACS. So strong cost and expense management drove positive earnings
results.
Next
slide. Our earnings and working capital management delivered $610 million of
cash from operations. We managed CapEx to only $40 million; paid down $615
million of debt; paid about $40 million of dividends; and ended the quarter with
$1.2 billion cash balance. Year to date, we have delivered $1.2 billion of cash
from ops versus a full-year guidance of $1.5 billion.
We are
now increasing that guidance to $1.7 billion, and we believe we will end the
year with a cash balance of $1.5 billion. This positions us well going forward.
Our balance sheet is strong, and we will continue to drive cash.
Next
slide. On translation currency, the euro has strengthened versus the dollar to
about 1.45, which is at about the same level at this point last year.
Transaction currency, primarily yen, although flattening out at 89 to 91 to the
dollar and 133 to 135 to the euro, is still challenging versus last year. We
have made good progress on cost actions to enable us to maintain our gross
profit margin.
Both
receivable writeoffs and provisions are improving. Our provisions improved
sequentially from first and second quarter by $10 million and $22 million
respectively.
The
bottom part of the slide addresses our financing dynamic, to give a perspective
and context in understanding our debt and commitment to maintaining an
investment-grade credit rating. We finance the majority of our products to our
customers in three- to five-year bundled contracts that generally include the
equipment, service, supplies, and leasing and financing.
The
equipment represents $7.6 billion of finance assets, and we leverage them 7 to
1. That is the $6.6 billion of debt on the slide. The remaining $0.8 billion is
core debt, only 8% leverage. This is a committed stream of cash that our
customers pay us over the life of their contract with Xerox.
The debt
ladder shows how we manage the debt maturities and balance with operating cash
flow. We maintain these maturities at about $1 billion a year. Contrast this to
our cash flow from ops over the last seven years, which has been $1.5 billion to
$2 billion, and now forecasted to be $1.7 billion this year. As the debt
matures, we have typically gone to capital markets to maintain the leverage
ratio. In May, we borrowed $750 million.
In
addition, our $2 billion revolver gives us flexibility as to when we want to go
to capital markets. So the context and perspective you can take from this is the
majority of our debt supports contractually obligated payments from our
customers; our core debt is small; our cash flow and financial flexibility are
strong; and we have comfortably managed this over the years and will continue to
do so.
Next
slide. While our revenue performance has certainly been impacted by the economy,
the post-sales stream has held up better than equipment. Paper and unbundled
supplies continue to drive a large portion of the decline, 5.6 or 60% of the 9
points. Both of these revenue streams are impacted by the weaker end-user demand
and inventory management by our distributors as well as end-users. Additionally,
unbundled supplies revenue was impacted by about $10 million, resulting from
some spot inventory constraints that will clear out in fourth
quarter.
Developing
markets, with its two-tiered distribution, continues to have a disproportionate
impact, resulting in a 25% decrease in post-sale revenue which represents 3.3
points of the 9. Their performance is made worse by currency changes in those
geographies for which we do not adjust, but which cost us 1 percentage point on
a total post-sale revenue.
We are
seeing less of an impact on usage levels of our equipment, which affects our
core annuity of outsourcing service and rental, $100 million lower on a base of
$2 billion or 3 points of the 9. Our machines in the field remain a positive
indicator, growing 20% for color and 1% for total digital. And although pages
were down, driven by mono production declines, color pages grew 7%.
So in
summary, we continue to manage with discipline in a challenging economy,
exceeding earnings and cash commitments while positioning our business for
strength going forward. And now, back to Ursula.
Ursula Burns - Xerox
Corporation - CEO
Thanks,
Larry. Here is a closing summary of the quarter on slide 10. We're continuing to
invest in key areas of the business that give us competitive advantage, like our
ColorQube system, digital packaging solutions, and digital color presses. We
remain pleased with the EPS, cash flow, gross margin, and overall operational
improvements that delivered solid bottom-line results despite continued revenue
challenges.
As a
result, we are setting fourth-quarter guidance to $0.20 to $0.22 per share,
excluding ACS acquisition costs, which gives us full-year earnings in the range
of $0.55 to $0.57, up from $0.50 to $0.55.
In
addition to this solid financial performance, we are very encouraged by the new
business we are winning through our industry-leading managed print services.
Scaling our services business has long been a strategic focus for us. The growth
opportunity has proven to be significant.
Our
customers are demanding more service-related value, and the multiyear contracts
provide profitable recurring revenue. These factors reinforce the rationale of
acquiring ACS. So we will take a few minutes now to share with you more detail
about this deal; then we will open the line for questions.
In the
next few slides we will take you through why BPO is such an attractive, relevant
market for us; why ACS is the most compelling fit to drive our growth in this
market now; how we plan for the acquisition; the revenue and profit synergies of
it; our strategic and financial profile going forward; and why we are confident
in the value that this transaction creates for our customers and our
shareholders.
This is,
indeed, a transformative deal for Xerox at a time when a transformation is
needed to respond to rapidly emerging demands in the market place.
Slide 12.
We believe this transaction is a solid investment and will deliver increased and
sustainable value for our shareholders and customers. There are six key reasons
why.
It
provides immediate scale and leadership in BPO. It increases our already-strong
free cash flow. It strengthens our annuity-based business model. It takes great
advantage of the power of our brands, our technology, and our global reach. It
expands our participation in a growing broader market. And it significantly
enhances our profitable revenue growth.
Through
the acquisition of ACS, we gain a growth catalyst that secures a strong
competitive future for our Company.
Turn to
slide 13, please. This transaction combines two best-in-class companies to
create a new class of solutions provider. In doing so, we become a $22 billion
company, $17 billion of which is recurring revenue. Our free cash flow will
exceed $2 billion. We deliver double-digit operating margins, and we are a
leading player in a $500 billion market. That's 4 times our current market, and
it's a market with a 5% annual growth rate.
We're on
slide 14, and let me start with why now. The answer is really baked into our
overall strategic planning process. Our Board and management team are always
looking at opportunities for the Company to ensure we are elevating our strength
in a changing business environment.
And here
is what we are seeing. Our customers' demands are evolving. Many are
increasingly seeking service providers that offer a full range of solutions from
the management of their print services to the management of work processes in
their back and front offices.
Large
enterprises also demand global capabilities and global account management. They
have offices in dozens of countries, but they have centralized ways of managing
all of them. From their service providers they want one point of contact who can
execute in multiple ways.
And our
customers are demanding more value from their technology. They want their
hardware investments married with software, and they want total packages that
solve a problem, cut their costs, or simplify the way they get work
done.
Xerox and
others in our industry are responding to these dynamics by building more
services into the value proposition both organically and inorganically. The
reason is clear. In a mature hardware technology market, the bigger growth
opportunity is in services.
Services
is a broadly defined word. And as we look at it in our base business, services
comprise both the technical support of our equipment and, as important, the
software and outsourcing that relate to workflow in a business.
For
example, we provide imaging services for clients where we'll take their millions
of paper documents, convert them to digital, categorize them, and create online
filing systems. The common theme is the document, paper or digital. It's the
basis of all the services that we provide.
So in
scaling our services business, we started with following the document. We looked
at where our expertise lends itself well in the industries that are still
heavily dependent on documents. That brought us to business process outsourcing,
which is almost entirely document-driven and differentiates us from IT
providers.
BPO is
all about taking time-consuming operations and either automating the processes
through technology or finding more productive ways to do the work manually, or a
little of both.
Healthcare
is the best example of an industry that is still very paper dependent. Whether
it's the healthcare provider or the healthcare payer or even the patient, paper
is changing hands and needs to get to the right source for appropriate action.
BPO providers are behind the scenes doing the work, producing the hard copies,
converting forms to digital, distributing them to the right parties, processing
the payments, etc. Documents in any form are part of every single
step.
And
that's where Xerox and where ACS comes in. For our business to increase its
relevancy, we needed to broaden our definition of services, and that's why BPO
became the logical and natural next step for Xerox.
With the
BPO business, we extend our participation in vertical markets like healthcare,
legal, transportation, and financial services. We participate in a more
diversified market that holds up well in any economy. We become in
differentiated in the marketplace, and we benefit from stronger relevance in the
world of business today.
Please
turn to slide 16. So let me be clear, Xerox is the world leader in document
technology and related services. Documents and imaging are core to nearly every
business process. ACS is the world leader in business process outsourcing.
Marrying our two very complementary leadership positions creates a formidable
competitor in our expanded market.
Keep in
mind Xerox has always led the technology shifts in our industry -- from analog
to digital, from black-and-white to color, from standalone devices to
multifunction systems, and from managing print shops to enterprisewide print
services. So it's not in our blood to stand still.
Acquiring
ACS gives us best-in-class BPO expertise in diverse markets where ACS is already
a leader. It makes us immediate -- it gives us immediate scale to start
participating now in a market that is growing really fast.
It lets
us take advantage of our brand and global account relationships to grow their
BPO business outside the United States. It provides a great platform for our
innovation, to help improve their offerings through more
automation.
It lets
us benefit from double-digit operating margins. It fuels our annuity stream, so
that our combined recurring revenue will be 80% of our total
revenue.
At the
end of the day, regardless of the strength of our existing business, with a
company like ACS we will take advantage of the market growth potential as a
leading provider of integrated solutions.
With ACS
we are in the game as the leader. That means controlling our ability to deliver
a more compelling value proposition for Xerox shareholders.
We're on
slide 17. We began evaluating acquisition targets in services several years ago.
In those evaluations ACS was always included. It was tough to ignore the
disciplined and strategic approach that they were taking to scale their business
while delivering impressive financial results. So ACS was definitely on the
radar screen.
However,
we chose to make smaller acquisitions that supported our play in vertical
markets. Our success and learning from these transactions prompted us to expand
our focus to a full range of possibilities including large deals. Given how our
industry and competitors are evolving, we know that the opportunity is now.
Again, we feel strongly that we need to get ahead of the curve.
Through
detailed reviews, we were led to back to ACS as the very best option to expand
our business. So for Xerox's Board, our management team, Anne, and me, signing
this deal was high on our agenda over the summer.
We were
very firm on our requirements. The acquisition had to give us access to an
expanded market with strong, sustainable growth. The deal had to improve the
overall financial profile of Xerox, not keep it the same -- had to make it
better. And we needed to ensure that the company we acquired had a solid,
committed management team to help lead the effective execution going
forward.
With ACS,
these requirements are definitely met, and then some. Prior to the transaction
announcement last month, both companies conducted in-depth analysis to identify
costs and revenue synergies. They are significant. They are absolutely
achievable. And they help to support the added value of this acquisition for
Xerox and for our shareholders.
Larry
will walk you through these synergy cases and discuss how this acquisition
shapes our financial model going forward. Larry?
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
Over the
years, Xerox has built a track record of identifying and executing on cost
actions. The transaction with ACS presents Xerox with a compelling opportunity
for tangible, achievable synergies.
The
revenue opportunities are significant catalysts on their own. The cost synergies
provide a solid base for the transaction. The cost synergies were derived by
conducting a line-by-line review of cost-reduction opportunities, focusing on
corporate governance, services delivery, and infrastructure.
When we
announced the transaction we indicated that we would see around $100 million of
synergies in year 1, ramping to $300 million to $400 million by year 3, and an
additional $250 million of cash benefits over the first three years. The
potential, though, is much more, as the next slide shows.
We've
calculated the total base scenario for synergies to be about $2 billion in
revenue by year 5 and $100 million in cost synergies next year, ramping to $600
million in annual profit by year 5. For our base case scenario, we have used
very realistic and conservative assumptions. For example, it assumes that we do
not realize any additional revenue until year 2.
We don't
see our upside scenario of $800 million in profit as the ceiling for our
combined Company's synergy potential. Rather, it is a reasonable, achievable
benchmark.
To drive
delivery of these synergies, we have established acquisition operation offices
at both companies. We've detailed over 60 different initiatives that are managed
across four teams -- services sales; innovation; corporate governance; and
delivery and infrastructure. We built up the synergy estimates from these
initiatives, and we will closely measure and hold teams accountable for
delivering on them.
Now let
me give you a couple of examples of how we will achieve these synergies. We will
be able to achieve $130 million in savings by incorporating ACS's activity-based
compensation practices across some of Xerox's service areas. ACS typically can
deliver cost savings in the range of 20%. We are conservatively planning on just
over 10%.
We can
generate $100-million-plus in revenue in year 3 from Xerox's strong brand image
and global sales channels, particularly given the fact that 92% of ACS business
currently comes from North America and 20% of our customers overlap. When you
consider the significant market opportunities and the total revenue incentive
structure for our top-level relationship managers, our challenge will be
managing the volume and quality of leads to ensure we have enough resources to
implement the new business.
Next
slide. Here is a review of the strength of the total financial profile that
results from this acquisition. There are four key points.
First,
the combination strengthens our annuity-driven business model. We will achieve
6% to 8% revenue growth driven by organic and inorganic growth and small
distribution and BPO acquisitions. This revenue drives incremental profit,
increasing margin, and expanding earnings. Annuity model generates cash of 11%
of revenue for cash from operations and 9% of revenue for free cash
flow.
Second,
significant cash flow. Cash from operations of $2.6 billion in 2010, going to
$3.1 billion in 2012 driven by earnings. CapEx in the $600 million to $700
million range each year, driven by the growth of our BPO business.
Debt
repayments of $1.8 billion in 2010; $800 million in 2011; and $100 million in
2012. These debt payments are net and are driven by where we want and expect to
land on our debt-to-EBITDA metrics.
Dividends
are about $260 million a year. So cash available to return to shareholders is
estimated to be $1 billion in 2011 and $2 billion in 2012. We expect to use
approximately 75% on share repurchase and 25% on small
acquisitions.
Third,
investment-grade debt-to-EBITDA metrics. We believe that given the cash
generation of the model and growth in EBITDA we will be at a steady state
debt-to-EBITDA within 1.5 years from closing, mid 2011. This gives us the
opportunity to start to return cash to shareholders.
By 2011,
debt drops by $2.5 billion and debt-to-EBITDA is at $2.3 billion. Cash
generation drives a strong balance sheet.
And
fourth, earnings expansion. With revenue growth including all our synergies, we
can increase operating margin by a point a year through 2012, which will expand
earnings by 15% to 20%. On an adjusted basis -- excluding intangibles,
restructuring, and transaction costs -- we will deliver $0.75 to $0.85 in 2010,
growing to $1.10 to $1.20 in 2012.
To
reiterate, the combination of our Company's results and a powerful business
model, huge cash generation driving cash returns to shareholders, an
investment-grade Company, and a margin growth and earnings expansion going
forward. We are confident the strategic fit matches customer requirements going
forward and the financial profile will deliver short- and long-term shareholder
value. Now back to Ursula.
Ursula Burns - Xerox
Corporation - CEO
I know
you're anxious to get to the Q&A, so let me wrap up
quickly.
In
summary, why BPO? It's a business that is driven by documents, and that is a
space that is a natural extension of our current technology and services
offering. It's also a highly relevant market with increasing profitable growth
across many vertical industries.
Why ACS?
They are the largest diversified BPO player in the world, and the best. They
have strong expertise, excellent leadership, and a steady track record of solid
financial results. But they need brand power and more global account focus to
grow outside of the United States. And they need innovation to
differentiate.
So the
respective needs and strengths of our two companies really do complement each
other and make the compelling value proposition.
Why now?
Simple. As we see more consolidation in the industry and more convergence of
technology with services, we want to be the leader in this market and benefit
from the growth opportunities now and well into the future. And we are well on
track to do so.
Just as
we manage our base business with discipline, we are doing the same in executing
against well-defined synergy cases for both revenue and costs. Execution is a
key strength of both of our management teams, so I'm very confident we will
deliver on our expectations.
Strategically
and financially, this acquisition is about value. Creating more relevant value
for the Xerox brand, more value for our customers through a broader set of
technology and services offerings, and more sustainable value for our
shareholders through increased recurring revenue, stronger cash flow, and
expanded earnings.
Many
thanks for listening, and now let's open it up for questions.
QUESTION AND
ANSWER
(Operator
Instructions) Ben Reitzes, Barclays Capital.
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
Yes, good
morning. Thank you. I wanted to ask you about slide 19, in particular. I know
Larry mentioned some of this, but maybe if you both could just talk about what
is needed to get to the upside scenarios there. Where particularly in year 1 and
year 2 and 3, where there is the difference of $50 million in year 1 and $125
million in year 3. Just some of the things that need to break
right.
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
Well, you
know, I think, Ben -- good morning, by the way.
Ben Reitzes - Barclays
Capital - Analyst
Good
morning.
Larry Zimmerman - Xerox
Corporation - Vice Chairman, CFO
I think
it's just a question of conservatism. I think we feel confident that we can get
to the upside. It's not a question of getting breaks.
We are
going to be driving for those numbers, and when we put together a case here we
wanted to be conservative. We wanted to keep the numbers to the level where
people didn't think we were just putting in numbers. So to answer your question
directly, I think the upsides are achievable and that's what we will be driving
for.
Ben Reitzes - Barclays
Capital - Analyst
In terms
of specific projects on the synergy side, I realize that it may be a little
sensitive given that there's people involved in terms of what you are
outsourcing to ACS. But could you talk particularly a little bit more about that
particular cost synergy, and what can be done very quickly to ACS?
Maybe
specific business processes. Or if that is too specific given the people
involvement, just anything more around that, that shows us that big part of the
synergy there, what you're going to outsource to them.
Larry Zimmerman - Xerox
Corporation - Vice Chairman, CFO
I think
you are right, Ben, I think there is some sensitivity to picking -- naming names
here. But generally speaking, there are parts of our business that are people
oriented. And we want to be able to get productivity in those
areas.
Generally
speaking, there is a lot of people-driven areas. If we just consider all of
those areas in the services area and the help desk kinds of areas, there is
ample opportunity to get productivity.
Ursula Burns - Xerox
Corporation - CEO
Yes, and
Ben, it's not all about removing people from the process. It's important to look
at what ACS brings to the table from a process management perspective. It's also
about having the people who are working these processes become more efficient
and effective in how they actually carry out their activity.
So not
all of the work that we will be doing is about removing people from the
business; it's getting them to be more productive.
Ben Reitzes - Barclays
Capital - Analyst
Were
these projects you were going to do anyway? Or you need ACS to do it? Because
you would have preferred to keep it in-house, so now that ACS is in-house you
can do these things?
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
Well,
there's two buckets that we should look at. One is, there is a process -- it's
not scientific, but it is pretty specific -- that ACS uses to manage their human
capital. That is a process that is part of the secret sauce of ACS that allows
them to be as good as they are.
We're
going to apply some of that. We couldn't do that without them helping us to do
that. That is one set.
There is
another set of activities that are to reorient or to look at the way that we do
business. So ACS will come in and take over activities for us. They will do them
because they are already outsourced. They will come in and become the outsource
provider for us, for example.
And we
get, as we said in some of our earlier discussions, we will get not only the
profit margin but we will get the manufacturers' margin as well.
So there
are two different looks here. But this is not the biggest focus of the activity.
It is clearly a big piece of work that we are doing when we combine these two
companies, but the benefit is not only internal to Xerox. It's to our customers
as well.
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
I think
too, Ben, the comfort zone of how much you do in all of this is helped a lot by
ACS being part of the Xerox company. Whereas if you just outsource it, it's not
the same kind of approach. As Ursula said, there is no profit margin associated
with it.
One last
point, too, was that there is a nonproduction benefit here of a significant
value, which is people oriented; and it is just using the power of the two
companies together to save a lot of money on purchasing.
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
If you
don't mind, I'll sneak one more in and get on the queue. Just with regard to the
core business, it looks like production was particularly weak in the quarter.
Could you kind of go through the puts and takes of that business? Maybe there
was a difficult compare.
And then
if there's is any parts of the business that were better than expected as well,
if you don't mind just highlighting. It looks like, I would guess, that
production was one of the areas a little weaker than you would have thought. And
there must have been some other areas, because revenues did come in a little
better than expected. But wondering what you would call out on the upside
too.
Ursula Burns - Xerox
Corporation - CEO
Yes,
production, you are correct. Just like in quarter 2, production was particularly
hard hit. Particularly production mono, which is a business that as we talk
about all the time is the core to the infrastructure of many large enterprises.
And those volumes are definitely under pressure everywhere around the
world.
We also
had two things to keep in mind. One was that we lapped the 700 product that we
launched last year. And by the way, it is still going well, the 700 is going
well, but we have the first quarter where we had it in the first -- in two
quarters on a year-over-year basis.
And then
the third point is that we had particular weakness in production color, in
production color in Europe, waiting for the launch of the DC7002 and the 8002.
Those products are in the market now and they are doing well and we expect them
to continue to do well.
So we
have a little bit difficult compare. The industry and market is still a little
bit soft, and we have a product introduction that we're counting on and we
expect to continue to do well.
Let me
just say one thing on the ColorQube product, which I will tout and trumpet every
time I have a chance. It's doing well. We introduced it in the United States. We
just started launching it in Europe. The uptake is good. The buzz continues to
be strong. And we're launching it in DMO in the first quarter in 2010. So
ColorQube is also doing well.
Ben Reitzes - Barclays
Capital - Analyst
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Ursula Burns - Xerox
Corporation - CEO
You're welcome.
Operator
Shannon
Cross, Cross Research.
Shannon
Cross - Cross Research -
Analyst
Good
morning.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
Good
morning, Shannon. How are you?
Shannon Cross - Cross Research
- Analyst
Good,
good. First, Ursula, can you just talk a little bit about -- now that you've had
time to be out there and talking to people -- the feedback you've gotten from
customers and partners on the ACS transaction? What they are thinking, how they
are kind of looking at it?
Ursula Burns - Xerox
Corporation - CEO
Well,
customers, all I can say in summary is we've not heard a bad word from either
ACS customers or from Xerox customers or from customers that do business with
both of us. Interestingly enough, their understanding of the requirement, which
is what we were really responding to, is clear and is forefront in their minds.
So when we speak to our customers, they want to make sure that we're not going
to go in to disrupt any good thing that we have going. But also they want us to
build on the connection of the two companies so that we can start to knit this
process together. So really good words on customers.
From a
partner kind of perspective or people who look at our industry, so either
advisers or partners, I think that you've read a lot of the writings here. I
don't think we've had one negative comment at all. All of the pundits from the
equipment side, the technology side, the document side that Xerox is in, and
from the BPO side that ACS is in, are all very, very positive and all aware of
the value that we can create.
Their
only caution to us is make sure that we implement it. They see it; we just have
to do the implementation there. And I don't know if Lynn wants to get anything
from ACS side.
Lynn
Blodgett - Affiliated Computer
Services, Inc. - President, CEO
I agree
100% that the client reaction has been very positive. They're particularly
interested in the idea that Xerox has such a great tradition and capability in
research and development and innovation. And that appeals very broadly to our
customer base.
And then
the fact that we have a global reach and a global brand is very important to
many of our customers, because that is such an area that is a weakness that we
have right now. So people have been very, very positive.
Shannon
Cross - Cross Research -
Analyst
Okay,
great. Then, I don't know, Larry, if you want to talk about this. But what are
some of the underlying assumptions you are using in the numbers, just for your
core business? How are you thinking about 2010 going forward? Clearly there
hasn't been much of an improvement.
Maybe,
Ursula, if you can talk anything about what you are hearing from your customers
just in terms of where their demand levels are, how they are thinking about
their budgeting process for 2010, anything specific on geographic outlook,
etc.
Ursula Burns - Xerox
Corporation - CEO
Yes, I
will take the first part and just give you some color on what customers -- on
what we're seeing from a demand perspective in the industry and the environment
out there. We still are seeing very muted activity levels around the globe. So
this is not only in any specific geography. Muted activity levels. People are
still holding to -- before they make an additional buying
decision.
The good
news about this, or the point that we are feeling not so bad about -- a better
way to put it -- is that machines in the field remain strong. So people are not
removing their technologies. By the way, MIF and color grew, as we said in the
conversation. The machines in the field are staying strong. They grew by about
1%.
So what
we're seeing is people taking a very cautious approach to adding new
technologies on a global basis. Weakness everywhere. Developing markets
continues to be weak. Europe -- so everywhere, weakness everywhere.
But as
the market improves, since customers have in their environments already the
technology that is needed to pick enough advantage of an uptick, we are
confident that we will be participating in that uptick.
And then
as the demand even increases, then we will get equipment sale revenue growth as
well. So -- and then Larry can talk about what he is saying from the financial
(multiple speakers).
Larry Zimmerman - Xerox
Corporation - Vice Chairman, CFO
Yes, I
mean, from a financial point of view, given that we should have or will have
easier compares or compares that are being compared to numbers that were
significantly down on the revenue side, we are certainly planning for
improvement in that area, which will help drive the business. We're still going
to be very conservative on the cost and expense side, driving more cost and
expense out of the business to buffer anything that might happen on the revenue
and make sure that we can deliver on what we have said in this
package.
Shannon Cross - Cross Research
- Analyst
Okay,
great. Then one final question, just on sort of more of a Xerox business
question. For managed print services, clearly HP has been talking about that.
Lexmark talked about growth in MPS yesterday. Can you talk, Ursula, about what
you're seeing in terms of contract signings and interest, RFPs, etc. from
customers who are looking at taking on more managed print?
Ursula Burns - Xerox
Corporation - CEO
Yes, as
you know, we introduced managed print service for the channel last year. And
actually we are the leader in that just like we were the leader in managed print
services, introducing that in general for the enterprise. What we are seeing is
that it continues to be the strongest offer that we have.
Customers
-- so managed print services -- services in general and managed print services
for customers of any size, they are significantly more interested in Xerox
providing a total solution than they are in our providing technology that
someone else has to come in and help them implement and operate.
So
signings are strong. Deals are smaller. That is for sure -- deals are smaller,
and they are taking a longer time to actually sign. But we are winning more than
our fair share of deals. We're the leader in this space, and really happy and
pleased, interestingly enough, that people are following. Because it actually
validates the fact that this is the offer to go after. And since we are ahead,
it makes for a good place for us to play.
ACS
actually, in our foray into BPO, is the next natural extension of this. So we
first started with technology. Then we knitted together some software and put
some people on top of it to actually manage that whole process. Document
process.
Now they
are saying get a little bit smarter. Take it up a level. And can you get engaged
and understand a full horizontal or vertical process for us and manage that? And
that is the next step with ACS.
So it's a
good play for us. It's definitely a good position for us to be in.
Shannon Cross - Cross Research
- Analyst
Great.
Thank you.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
You're
welcome.
Operator
Keith
Bachman, Bank of Montreal.
Keith Bachman - BMO Capital
Markets - Analyst
Hi, good
morning, team.
Ursula Burns - Xerox
Corporation - CEO
Good
morning, Keith.
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
Good
morning, Keith.
Keith
Bachman - BMO Capital Markets
- Analyst
I had two
questions; and nice job on the cash flow. My two questions I would like towards
you, Ursula, if I could. The first is, you mentioned that ACS -- the acquisition
is aligned to getting more in document workflow. I definitely agree with the
line of thinking.
What I'm
still not clear about is how much of ACS is really about document workflow.
Specifically, just to call out an area, ACS is pretty active in electronic toll
collections. So I was just wondering if you could characterize how much of ACS
really relates to document workflow. And for things that don't, would you look
at disposing of those assets? So that is my first question, please.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
Yes,
since you directed it to me very specifically, and then you can ask the second
one, Keith, if you don't mind. I'll answer, but the person who is sitting here
who could do it better is Lynn. But I will answer because you directed it to
me.
It turns
out just about every single thing about ACS is document workflow. Just about
every single thing. They have an ITO business which is still important and will
continue to happen after this deal closes.
But ACS
is about -- even the electronic toll collection, it's about taking an image,
some unstructured piece of information, some unstructured document in whatever
captive mechanism you want, and doing a next transaction on that. On increasing
the value and closing the loop on the deal. So even electronic toll collection
where you take -- where today you have this metal thing on your window that
actually has to be set. It goes over to Guatemala; it gets scanned in or typed
in and transacted, mailed back. It's all about documents.
The whole
point here is, why do that in a manual error-prone way? Why not do it in a more
technology-based way? That is one thing.
The other
thing is that they want more. They say just this simple thing of taking the
information that we specifically asked for and using it is interesting; but
there is so much more we can do with it.
So
transportation agencies around the world want us to help them eliminate -- want
ACS to help them eliminate these toll tags that are on all these cars. It's a
big expense to send them out. People lose them. They break, etc.
So if you
think about everything that happens from a work process, from a document
process, it's based in documents. BPO is about documents.
So we see
it in every line of their business, in every line of their business, that our
technology and our reach can help them; and they can help us immediately scale a
BPO business that we can leverage our technology and leverage our reach as well.
So it's a great marriage.
Lynn
Blodgett - Affiliated Computer
Services, Inc. - President, CEO
Just one
quick follow on. If you take tolling, since you raised that one as an example,
the concept of video tolling which Ursula was describing is the next generation.
Well, if you think about taking a picture of a car, either through video or
still camera, that creates a document. A digital image is a
document.
And what
Xerox has is technology that allows us to look at that document -- not to get
into too much technology -- but in an unstructured way, the way that a human
being would look at the document. Find a license plate and other information
potentially; read it; and get that information into a database to determine
whether or not it's a valid EZPass member, for example.
It is
very document intensive. You just have to -- it's how you define documents. But
digital records in our view are documents. They may come from voice files, they
may come from images, they may come from paper documents that are scanned. But
as Ursula said, the vast, vast majority of what we do is document
oriented.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
So,
Keith, what is the next question?
Keith
Bachman - BMO Capital Markets
- Analyst
Yes,
ma'am. I wanted to -- the second question relates to, what is Xerox bringing to
ACS? So the line of reasoning is that Xerox has better global account
penetration than what ACS has today, is what I've heard. And I just want to
clarify that.
So
doesn't that raise the question -- if ACS is competing against the likes of IBM,
etc., as well as a number of other players around the world, but at the account
level does Xerox have better representation or account penetration than some of
the existing global competitors that ACS is going against every
day?
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
I will
have Lynn take that, please.
Lynn
Blodgett - Affiliated Computer
Services, Inc. - President, CEO
Yes, I
think that you raise a very good point. It is that this is not a play of us
going against IBM or HP or Dell and the acquisitions that they have recently
made. Those are plays in the IT infrastructure and IT services. You know,
management services, software integration, systems development. That is their
play.
We are a
great IT provider, primarily in the United States. But we are not doing this to
attack IBM outside of the US and try to go toe-to-toe with them in the IT
business.
We are
the world's largest BPO provider, and we are going after BPO on a global basis.
In that environment, the fact that Xerox has -- 500 of their largest accounts
are managed by these global account managers and have relationships at the
senior executive level, we believe very strongly -- and that's something we
don't have, by the way, outside of the United States. The fact that that exists,
we are very confident that those people, who are relationship people, can take
our subject matter expert sales people, introduce them into the finance and
accounting department, into the human resource department of these global
companies; and then let our subject matter experts do the selling.
This is
-- we know how to execute on this. What Xerox brings us in this particular
regard is an infrastructure, a global infrastructure, and global access to these
major accounts. It's a different play than going after IBM.
Keith
Bachman - BMO Capital Markets
- Analyst
I will
cede the floor. Thank you.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
Thank
you, Keith.
Operator
Ananda
Baruah, Breen Murray, Carret & Co.
Ananda
Baruah - Brean Murray, Carret
& Co. - Analyst
Hi, guys,
and thanks for all the extra info today. It's actually quite
helpful.
Ursula, I
guess a couple of questions. Ursula, the first one for you. If you could
characterize -- is there any way you can just characterize maybe the tone of the
shareholders you have spoken with over the last couple of weeks? I guess that's
really it. And if you've seen a change as you've sort of been out there talking
about the deal?
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
Yes, we
have over the last couple of weeks spoken to all of our large -- the vast
majority of our large shareholders. We found that there are -- since the initial
announcement, like I said, we've spoken to all of them.
As you
know, all big deals, especially a transformative deal like this, requires some
explanation. We expected to have to provide that and we did.
We used
today's call to provide even more visibility into what we expect from the deal
-- the positives, the synergies, the reasons for it being a good shareholder
play.
Once we
explain the synergies, once we get past the synergies and they understand the
synergies, the reaction has been positive. We believe that this is a strong deal
for Xerox shareholders.
It
provides -- it puts us instantly in the BPO game in a leadership position. It
throws off a ton of cash and allows us to get back into the game of utilizing
our cash more directly in the shareholder benefit.
It
strengthens our annuity business. It's a great play for shareholders, and I
think that they are coming along in understanding that.
Ananda
Baruah - Brean Murray, Carret
& Co. - Analyst
Should we
have an expectation -- or I guess thinking about like what you will be doing to
carry this momentum kind of throughout the fall, leading up to the vote, I
guess. Do you plan on being kind of on the road as aggressively, collectively as
a team, as you have in the last couple of weeks?
Ursula Burns - Xerox
Corporation - CEO
Absolutely.
We will be out on a scheduled basis, and we will take calls from shareholders
who want to speak on an unscheduled basis. So the answer is yes, we will be out
very actively just like we were out after the announcement.
Ananda
Baruah - Brean Murray, Carret
& Co. - Analyst
Great.
Then I see on the bottom of slide 19, the estimates slide, it states estimates
assume a 12/31/09 close date of the transaction. Is that sort of an update as to
when you expect the deal to close? I think previous, initially Q1 was what you
guys had stated.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
That is
what we expect. Actually we expect to close this date at the end of the first
quarter of 2010.
Ananda
Baruah - Brean Murray, Carret
& Co. - Analyst
Got it.
Okay. Thanks a lot. Very helpful.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
In the
first quarter of 2010. I'm hoping it's not the end. But by the end we should
have it closed. In the first quarter I hope to have it
closed.
Ananda Baruah - Brean Murray,
Carret & Co. - Analyst
Understood.
Just piggybacking off the competitive question, I guess -- and maybe Lynn --
this is for both of you. Maybe Lynn can chime in as well.
I guess
who would you consider kind of your top competitors to be? I guess how would the
composition change if at all kind of given the deal?
Lynn
Blodgett - Affiliated Computer
Services, Inc. - President, CEO
It
changes significantly. Because in the BPO space there are no -- we will clearly
be the world leader in terms of size and scale, presence, product offering, and
so on. So we will have a competitive position.
Most BPO
providers tend to be very vertical. They've specialized in one particular area.
They do finance and accounting, and that is their thing.
We
provide, obviously, a variety of services; and now with a global presence we
will be able to provide those services to customers around the world. And that
will put us in a pretty unique position.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
If I can
just correct one thing or update just for the record, the slide 20 bottom is
just to show that the financials are done on a 12-month basis. We still expect
to close in the first quarter. This is not an update to the closing
timing.
Ananda
Baruah - Brean Murray, Carret
& Co. - Analyst
Okay. Got
it. But the synergies wouldn't change based on the closing
timing?
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
No. I
mean it --
Larry Zimmerman - Xerox
Corporation - Vice Chairman, CFO
We'd just
have less time (multiple speakers)
Ursula Burns -
Xerox Corporation - CEO
Less
time. If you (multiple speakers)
Ananda
Baruah - Brean Murray, Carret
& Co. - Analyst
(multiple
speakers) I got it.
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
It's not
going to be a material, because we expect to close early in the first quarter is
the goal here.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
So the
answer you your question is no.
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
So it's
not a material difference.
Ananda
Baruah - Brean Murray, Carret
& Co. - Analyst
Got it,
guys. Then if I could just ask one last one and I'll get back in the queue. I
guess it's a near-term question. I guess what is implied in the December quarter
guidance is $0.06 to $0.08 sequential improvement in earnings per share. I can
appreciate the environment is still soft.
If you
look back through your history, I guess sort of near-term history, last eight to
10 years or so, you typically do $0.10 to $0.15; and typically you do the higher
end of that range. So if you could just talk about what -- if there is anything
other than just demand is on the softer side that is having the EPS be a little
bit lower than it typically might be on a sequential basis.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
Yes,
demand is on the softer side. There is nothing more complicated than that. We
understand the compare. We understand the quarter-over-quarter seasonality
growth that we will get quarter 3 to quarter 4. And what we are seeing is a
continued soft environment.
If it
gets better, if it is better we will do better. We're not trying to be coy here
at all. If it is better, we will do better.
Ananda
Baruah - Brean Murray, Carret
& Co. - Analyst
Got it.
So I guess is that sort of -- said a different way, you're expecting softer than
expected top-line seasonality in the fourth quarter?
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
No, we
expect --
Ananda
Baruah - Brean Murray, Carret
& Co. - Analyst
I'm
sorry, softer than typical top-line revenue (multiple speakers)
..
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
Yes,
absolutely. Softer than typical, yes, for sure.
Ananda
Baruah - Brean Murray, Carret
& Co. - Analyst
Okay.
Thanks a lot.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
Thank
you.
Operator
Mark
Moskowitz, JPMorgan.
Mark
Moskowitz - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Thank
you. Good morning.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
Good
morning, Mark.
Mark
Moskowitz - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Hi,
Ursula. A couple questions on the core business. Just trying to get a sense if
you can talk more about the color sales velocity there. It seems it is kind of
trailing the core business in terms of an inflection point. Is that kind of a
laggard in terms of folks deferring purchases? If you can you talk a little bit
more about that.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
The
color? Color is a stronger part of the overall business, but it is also being
affected by the economy. So our color MIF, our color pages, and our color
activity in general is stronger than our black-and-white activity overall. But
it's being impacted by the economy as well. I'm not sure if I answered your
question, but --
Mark
Moskowitz - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Yes, I'm
sorry, I wasn't clear. I was talking more about just the overall install
activity related to color. I'm sorry.
Ursula Burns - Xerox
Corporation - CEO
Yes, the
overall install activity you'll see in North America in particular, the color
install activity was stronger than the black-and-white install
activity.
And I
think that you will see in quarter 3 that -- we definitely did in quarter 2 and
we will probably continue to do in quarter 3, gain share from a market
perspective. We had some weakness in quarter 3 in Europe, but that is primarily
in the entry production space because we didn't have a product, the 7002/8002
which launched late in -- or early in quarter 4.
So I
don't think that we see anything different from a trend perspective for this
year. Color remained stronger than black-and-white in just about all metrics --
activity, pages, MIF, etc. And we see share gains in North America and we will
recover in share in Europe.
And
ColorQube, as I said, again plays here. So we launched that in Europe in
September -- or in fourth quarter as well.
Mark
Moskowitz - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Sure.
That actually is a good segue to my next question because I wanted to ask about
the ColorQube. Just in terms of -- a couple of parts to this
question.
One, what
type of accounts are you winning placement right now? Are these heritage Xerox
customers? Or are you experiencing or encountering incremental wins in terms of
new Xerox customers, new to the Xerox account?
Then the
other part is, how are you in terms of the OpEx? I know you guys have kind of a
staged deployment of ColorQube globally. But do you have any flexibility in
terms of maybe accelerating because of the early success?
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
Yes, so
on the first question about where we are seeing the placements, we have been
very focused. We launched a product with our sales people in the United States;
and as we deploy it the same message that we want to go after new, so
incremental color activity. So we don't want to have our focus be on replacing
existing color machines for Xerox. We see 40% to 50% of the installs are new
Xerox activity.
So any
account, all account, all types of business, small to large and almost half, up
to half of the activity is new business for us. So it's actually very
good.
We
obviously have flexibility up to go faster. We are managing this and metering it
based on demand in the marketplace and cash utilization. Those are the two
things that we want to be careful of to make sure we don't get ahead of the game
and have a lot of machines out there that we will eventually sell, but not sell
in the period.
So we are
staging the launch, as we just finished the United States. We are going to go to
Europe, and then we will go to DMO. If things get hugely better, we can go
faster. But we haven't seen that hugely better yet; so we're going to monitor it
going forward.
Mark
Moskowitz - JPMorgan -
Analyst
Thank
you.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
Welcome.
Operator
Jason
Kupferberg, UBS.
Jason
Kupferberg - UBS -
Analyst
Hey,
guys. Good morning.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
Hello,
Jason.
Jason
Kupferberg - UBS -
Analyst
Hi, how
are you?
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
I'm
great.
Jason
Kupferberg - UBS -
Analyst
Good,
good. Lynn, I know you guys aren't doing an earnings call tonight, so I wanted
to hear your voice one more time.
Lynn
Blodgett - Affiliated Computer
Services, Inc. - President, CEO
Hey, good
to hear yours, Jason. Great to hear you.
Jason
Kupferberg - UBS -
Analyst
Thanks
for taking --
Lynn
Blodgett - Affiliated Computer
Services, Inc. - President, CEO
Of
course, I know you have not asked your question yet, so maybe it isn't great to
hear you.
Jason
Kupferberg - UBS -
Analyst
I had a
question coming from the ACS angle a bit. As you guys pointed out, ACS has been
very sales focused the past couple of years. Bookings have been tremendous over
the past year. So I'm curious to understand how you guys might be incenting key
members of the ACS sales force to make sure that they stay in place here through
the transition as part of the merged entity, and make sure that that sales
engine keeps humming along.
Lynn
Blodgett - Affiliated Computer
Services, Inc. - President, CEO
Well, the
best incentive we can give to our sales force is for them to make more money.
And being a sales guy myself, money motivates them.
And the
opportunity that this is opening for our sales organization is the strongest
motivator. We've tried to be careful and to make sure that people understand
that, as we go through this transition.
The
reality is, we're not -- in terms of the base ACS business, we're going to
continue to run as ACS, a Xerox company. We're going to continue to sell the
things that we have. It will impact those who have global opportunities in
giving them more opportunity.
But we're
confident that this only has upside for the sales teams and that most of them
are just going to stick to the knitting that they are performing right now, and
make more money.
Jason
Kupferberg - UBS -
Analyst
Okay. A
follow-up if I could here. One question that we've been getting a lot from
investors is really trying to understand within the client organization that
Xerox has relationships at, in how many cases -- or if there is a way to kind of
estimate a percentage of these clients, where the actual decision-makers are the
same individuals who would be making decisions as it relates to ACS's solutions.
Is there any way you can frame a metric or an answer around
that?
Lynn
Blodgett - Affiliated Computer
Services, Inc. - President, CEO
Yes, one
of the reasons that we talk about the global account organization that Xerox has
is that that transcends the individual department decision-making that goes on.
What I mean to say is that if you are working with purchasing or procurement on
a decision for a piece of hardware, that is going to be a different person than
the person who would decide who processes the back office insurance
claims.
But the
relationship -- and that's the case. But where Xerox has relationships at the
senior executive level, that is with people like the CFO, the CEO, the CIO. And
those people -- that bridges that decision gap, if you want to think of it that
way.
So we're
comfortable that this is not a situation where we're expecting a field Xerox
salesperson who is working heavily in the managed print services area -- we
expect them to bring us in, in the ITO world there; but we would not expect that
person to be the one who makes the link on finance and accounting, for example.
We expect that global account manager to introduce our subject matter expert to
the CFO.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
If I can
just add one thing, Jason. If you look at Xerox's business, we have a $3.5
billion services business today, over $3 billion services business today. The
transactions that we carry out in those services business are not small and they
are not equipment based. We already have to, and our account general managers
already do, manage the introduction and the integration of the deployment of our
services offerings to these large clients. So they already introduce. They
already manage the account relationship at the most senior level to pull off a
services deployment which is very large and fairly complex and involves a large
piece of the infrastructure.
So they
integrate and interact with CFOs, with the CIO, with the CEO. They do that today
to actually grow -- to have grown our services business. So we have that basis
already.
Jason
Kupferberg - UBS -
Analyst
Okay.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
And we
practice it today.
Jason
Kupferberg - UBS -
Analyst
Okay.
Well, thanks for the color. Good luck, guys.
Lynn
Blodgett - Affiliated Computer
Services, Inc. - President, CEO
Good to
hear your voice.
Operator
Ben
Reitzes, Barclays Capital.
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
Hey,
thanks for getting back to me. I just wanted to go to slide 21 in the bottom
right corner, where you have your income statement projections. I just wanted to
clarify something.
The
adjusted EPS at the bottom, not the GAAP, is that using the current consensus
that's out there on the Street for 2010 and 2011 for the core
business?
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
No, it's
using our -- it's all our estimates.
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
Is it
pretty close to where consensus is?
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
For the
base business?
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
Yes, for
the core Xerox.
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
Yes, is
probably close to -- I mean, we weren't that far off from
consensus.
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
Okay.
Then just with regard to slide -- I assume -- and that is including the base
case, right, synergies that are on slide 19?
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
Yes.
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
Plus the
EBIT and the business of ACS?
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
Yes.
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
Okay. Is
there anything else? Maybe this is basic, but I just want to clarify that. Those
numbers obviously put you pretty close to $1.00 in FY11.
And then
with regard to share repurchase, I wanted to just clarify a comment you said
earlier, Larry. You said by mid '11 that you will use 75% of your cash for
returning cash to shareholders?
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
Yes, I
said by mid '11 we will start to be able to repurchase
shares.
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
Okay, and
that's what you -- that is your focus rather than dividend?
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
Well,
yes, I mean, dividend is a Board decision. But right now, I would say share
repurchase is where we are going.
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
Okay.
Then anything you guys just want to talk about with regard to timeline? You
obviously need to get the S-4 done; and then obviously we need to vote. Anything
that -- do you mind just walking us through again just on some of the basics of
the timeline?
What your
latest to-do list is in terms of the basics as we go through the transaction?
That might be helpful for some on the call -- and maybe me, because maybe I'm
not as smart as everybody. But I wouldn't mind hearing it.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
We have
to file the S-4, which we should do tomorrow. We then have to -- it has to stay
out there for a certain amount of time, and it's 30 days it has to stay out
there. We have to try to get the votes.
And once
that happens, we will close. And we hope that that will happen in the first
quarter. (multiple speakers)
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
When do
you expect the vote?
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
Probably
late December, early January.
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
Okay.
Ursula, you've probably spoken to all the large holders. What is your confidence
of getting the transaction, the vote, going your way? You only need 50% of those
present, right?
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
I am very
confident that we will be able to get the vote. We have to work to do that, and
that is what we do every day.
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
Got it.
Larry, any timeline on any of your financing plans?
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
Well, the
first step here is we are putting out an S-4 and a Q as fast as we possibly can,
which starts the process. I'm told that the process with the SEC is 30 days,
hopefully, or so, depending on the questions that you get. So at that time
hopefully we would be -- could go to capital markets if the capital markets were
receptive, and would go to the capital markets.
Just to
add some other information that I think was in our MD&A, but the bridge has
been syndicated. So there is a number of banks that have taken the bridge
loan.
And
number two, we've also renegotiated the covenants on it and so that there is
more than enough cushion going out through time. I think the specifics are in
the MD&A, but it goes out in time.
We also
have a regulatory with the government, Hart-Scott-Rodino, that has to go
through. But I think we're on a fastest path that we possibly can
be.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
And
that's the best takeaway.
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
And
what's the best case scenario that you raise in the capital markets? Or what do
you think you're going to need?
Larry
Zimmerman - Xerox Corporation
- Vice Chairman, CFO
Well, the
whole bridge was done at $3 billion; so that obviously would be the maximum.
Given our cash performance and everything else, maybe it would be
less.
Ben
Reitzes - Barclays Capital -
Analyst
Okay,
great.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
But max,
$3 billion. I think we have time for one more question.
Operator
Shannon
Cross, Cross Research.
Shannon
Cross - Cross Research -
Analyst
Thanks. I
actually have a question going back to sort of Xerox's core business. With
regard to the pressure that you have seen on the supply side, I think it was
down 18% this quarter which clearly a lot of that was paper and inventory
contraction and that. Can you talk a bit about -- and also I guess emerging
markets.
How are
you looking at that? If it turns around it's clearly going to be a pretty big
improvement or at least a nice source of profit. So how do you sort of -- what
are your discussions with your channel partners on that side? How are you
thinking about the paper business? Just anything you can give us around that
revenue stream.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
So you
were right, by the way; it is a nice source of profit and cash for us, and
therefore we focus on it a lot. We have seen the continued softness. And as you
pointed out and as slide 9 spoke about, the way that we look about is to make
sure that we understand what portion of our core business -- the non-inventory
stocking, the non-paper, which is our -- you know, service and rental business
is core business. How is that faring? And that is holding up better than our
equipment business and holding up better than the total supplies
business.
So that
is good. That remains the case. We haven't seen an increase in inventory
stocking in the channels, really. That trend hasn't changed.
We have
been very, very disciplined about how we manage inventory. And last quarter we
missed some orders because we didn't have the inventory on hand. We didn't have
the actual supply on hand. But we didn't lose those orders; we expect to get
them this quarter. So we have been very, very tight in managing our own
inventory.
But
net-net, the post-sale business for our core business continues to trend which
is a little bit better performance than the overall post-sale paper continues to
be. Paper supplies and particularly channel supplies and particularly [BMO]
continue to be weak.
We do
expect as the economy gets better and as business starts to turn around that
this will start to grow. This is a big base for us though, as you know, Shannon.
It is a huge number, which is good. And when it turns around, we will see it
before anybody else sees it, because to turn the number takes a
lot.
Shannon
Cross - Cross Research -
Analyst
Can you
give us any color in terms of verticals? Like where you are seeing more weakness
or less? I think IBM and [Osay] both mentioned a little bit of an improvement in
the financials vertical, but I'm just curious as to anything you can give us
there.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
We
haven't seen an improvement in any specific vertical. I'm happy to hear that IBM
and whoever you just said --
Shannon
Cross - Cross Research -
Analyst
Osay.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
-- also
saw improvement, because IBM is a customer of ours; so if they improve then we
should be able to improve as well.
We
haven't seen a big uptick in any particular vertical. Production mono, so
financial services, deals, etc., when that starts to turn around, which is a
user of our technology and our services, large users of our technology and
services, as those verticals turn around then we should see our production mono
business and business overall get a little bit stronger. So we are looking for
sustained signals there.
Shannon
Cross - Cross Research -
Analyst
Great.
Thank you.
Ursula
Burns - Xerox Corporation -
CEO
So my
thanks again for joining us today. Larry, Lynn and I look forward to talking
more with you in the upcoming weeks. Enjoy your rest of the
day.
Operator
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